Loondave1 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-nhs-would-face-450m-black-hole-under-independence-9735541.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bojangles Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 That's what's ahead if we vote no. Not sure why you guys think this is some sort of coup de grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 All the more reason for a Yes vote, imo. Scotland's finances in Scotland's hands. Pleasing. It's safe to take EVERYTHING in the papers as scaremongering at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowmore Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 That's what's ahead if we vote no. Not sure why you guys think this is some sort of coup de grace. Please stop scaremongering, its getting out of hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh aye Alex had to keep a few secrets because of not being independent. Maybe he could just have told us and we could have made our own mind up on the cause.Noticeably no one is saying its not true just a bit of "economical with the truth" till Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh aye Alex had to keep a few secrets because of not being independent. Maybe he could just have told us and we could have made our own mind up on the cause.Noticeably no one is saying its not true just a bit of "economical with the truth" till Friday. ^^^ seething as his thread didn't pan out as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Is it true or not ?? Im "seething" with a cup of tea and a biscuit at the moment.That "seethe" with the pointy up things is a bit passé is it not by now.A bit monkey see monkey do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Is it true or not ?? Im "seething" with a cup of tea and a biscuit at the moment.That "seethe" with the pointy up things is a bit passé is it not by now.A bit monkey see monkey do. It's true that what you posted is more reason for voting Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Ah bourbon now my favourite.So what I posted is not factually inaccurate just interpreted differently by either point of view.Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Ah bourbon now my favourite.So what I posted is not factually inaccurate just interpreted differently by either point of view.Fair enough. No. The funding gap exists is true. That exists. Unfortunately for those trying to use this as an excuse to stay in union are then setting out on an epic fail. What some of the other posters are perhaps trying to point out to the pea brain OP is that any funding gap is not the fault of the Scottish government. The Scottish NHS is entirely funded through the block grant given back to Scotland by Westminster as a result of the Barnett consequential. As a result of successive cuts to this block grant in recent years due to Westminster austerity, the Scottish government is being forced to make cuts to essential public services including the NHS. ???? These cuts to the Scots block grant are particularly galling because as everone should know, tax revenue from Scotland far exceeds what is received back by way of block grant. It is in fact a massive own goal by Westminster. Now if we had a free and independent media in this country this would be reported as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Is it true or not ?? Im "seething" with a cup of tea and a biscuit at the moment.That "seethe" with the pointy up things is a bit passé is it not by now.A bit monkey see monkey do. Is it true that there will be a £450M "blackhole" in the event of independence? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Then we should be told that straight up and make our own conclusions.Why not publicise this massive "own goal" if thats what it is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh aye and "pea brain".Name calling as the debate lowers itself to the playground. Jousting with intellectual giants once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Then we should be told that straight up and make our own conclusions.Why not publicise this massive "own goal" if thats what it is ? Aye good one pal. I'm sure the editors of oir tabloids and broadsheets would be queing up to print the story.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh I think they are printing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh I think they are printing it... Good. Because the scare stories have worked a treat so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceblink Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Saw this headline in The "Independent" this morning: Scottish independence exclusive: Millions of banknotes sent to Scotland in case Yes vote sparks run on ATMs Good to see the banks are prepared for the party, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The question is, if the Herald and BBC have both been shown this leaked document that shows a funding gap, why have neither of them published the document? The BBC website has a picture of the document, but strangely enough absolutely none of it relates to figures. Surely if there is such a smoking gun it's entirely right they publish it. BBC: "we have a document that proves a funding gap" The Public: "can we see it?" BBC: "no, we will only show you a snippet of the document" The Public: "but that bit you are showing doesn't list any figures" BBC: "ah, yes, but that's in the part we didn't show you" The Public: "Wouldn't it be best just to show the bits that support your claims?" BBC: "no, you will just have to trust us. After all, we are completely unbias in this debate" Yeah, that seems utterly fair comment. Got to love anonymous whistleblowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Then we should be told that straight up and make our own conclusions.Why not publicise this massive "own goal" if thats what it is ? The "story", as far I can tell, is that, because of extant financial pressures, the Scottish Government are looking to make savings. Someone has jumped on this to make a political point and you want the Scottish Government to do what exactly, make pre-emptive denials that a story which makes no sense (which is that this situation was somehow caused by Scotland becoming independent) makes no sense. Just read the fucking headline and then apply your own critical thought you lazy cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Bystander Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I should point out that I neither believe nor disbelieve whether there is any meat on these bones. The only way to back up a claim is to publsih the document or are we going to get the "publish and be damned" response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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