Dryhorce Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Watching Naismith today looks the part another goal against Arsenal has started the season sharper for sure. Or should we try a 4 4 1 1 and play them both Naismith made a good chance in that area today with a header Was think you could do that and lay it on for big Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Is Fletcher even fit? Naismith is a stick on to start against Germany, if he remains fit that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I would quite like to see Naismith in behind Fletcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Is Fletcher even fit? Naismith is a stick on to start against Germany, if he remains fit that is. Aye I believe so and he has had a great pre season under his belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Is Fletcher even fit? Naismith is a stick on to start against Germany, if he remains fit that is. I've been impressed with SNupfront, atm Fletcher needs to get fit and in form to force his way back into the side. SN hasn't done anything wrong to lose his place in the team. Good problem to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieStevenson Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Fletcher is pish imo. This will be a fantastic season for Naismith though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 I've been impressed with SNupfront, atm Fletcher needs to get fit and in form to force his way back into the side. SN hasn't done anything wrong to lose his place in the team. Good problem to have. I agree he is in the driving seat for first pick.but do not forget RHODES and NAISMITH in behind him for Georgia surely we can do them they have lost players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I agree he is in the driving seat for first pick.but do not forget RHODES and NAISMITH in behind him for Georgia surely we can do them they have lost players SN is in charge of the no 9 shirt, for def. Hopefully Rhodes can clinch his prem move, get a glut of goals and Fletcher can find his form for Sunderland too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 SN is in charge of the no 9 shirt, for def. Hopefully Rhodes can clinch his prem move, get a glut of goals and Fletcher can find his form for Sunderland too. Blackburn say he is not for sale earlier today.there are out to try and get promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico10 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Naismith used to play left midfield for Scotland under Craig Levein and George Burley but obviously plays better as a centre forward, I wouldn't pair them against Germany but surely its something that we should look at against Georgia in second match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Naismith used to play left midfield for Scotland under Craig Levein and George Burley but obviously plays better as a centre forward, I wouldn't pair them against Germany but surely its something that we should look at against Georgia in second match! Guys versatile even play center of midfield for Rangers when he was called on.felt a bit sorry for him today even though I am a red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I've been impressed with SNupfront, atm Fletcher needs to get fit and in form to force his way back into the side. SN hasn't done anything wrong to lose his place in the team. Good problem to have. So have I, took his goal well yesterday although through the keepers legs. As much as I like him as a player and he does link up well with the midfield, I think the one up top suits Fletcher more. Surprisingly SN wins many headers and like I said links up well with the midfield, but he suits playing with a strike partner. I'd still like him to start and he deserves it on current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof! Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 With Snograss injured, yes. Naismith can play anywhere in the three positions behind the striker and is good at timing his runs into the box. With a proper pre-season, Fletcher can be great for us. He's got the best first touch in our squad and Strachan has mentioned this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swing_kinker Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Not a big fan of Fletcher. Naismith has matured into a fantastic player, if the formation dictates its one or the other then it has to be Naisy for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtbahfm Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Strachan is likely to pick players based on various things (overall ability, strengths and weaknesses of the opposition, international record etc), probably the most important thing is current form / confidence. While we've had a few players like Hutton and McFadden who seemed to be able to turn it on for Scotland despite not playing for their clubs, generally I would much rather have players who are doing well every week. A couple of seasons ago there would have been no question that Fletcher was the first choice Nbr 9 as he was scoring goals at a good level while Naismith was struggling to get a game for Everton. Now Naismith is bang in form and is currently playing right up front with lukaku out on the right, so he has to play there against Germany. If he gets injured then we'll have to use Fletcher which is a good back up to have. By the end of the season it may be Fletcher who's the man in form and then it might make more sense to play Naismith at Nbr 10 or leave him on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKTID Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Naismith for me on his own. He's good enough in the air to pose an attacking threat from crosses. Just need the 3 in behind to make themselves available for through balls and layoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Naismith for me on his own. He's good enough in the air to pose an attacking threat from crosses. Just need the 3 in behind to make themselves available for through balls and layoffs. Scotland don't really play 3 in behind though. It's generally been Snodgrass, Maloney or Morrison off the central striker. There's a case for saying playing Naismith off Fletcher would have little effect on our formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Scotland don't really play 3 in behind though. It's generally been Snodgrass, Maloney or Morrison off the central striker. There's a case for saying playing Naismith off Fletcher would have little effect on our formation. We can't not play Naismith - but he doesn't score goals! 3 for Scotland in almost 30 appearances and a fairly average return at club level will not qualify us for the Championships. In support of a Fletcher (albeit with a poor international record), Rhodes or Martin then he has a huge role to play. Up front on his own? Not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 How many of those games has he started as centre forward? Assuming we have an attacking 4, Naismith can play any of those positions. The question isn't really can Naismith and Fletcher play together, Naismith is versatile enough that they can in our current formation. It's more is Fletcher good enough to be a lone striker? What he lacks in pace he makes up for in touch and strength, with Naismith behind him I think they could work well together. Naismith is a definite starter for the foreseeable future though, so the question is if Fletcher is better than any of the three attacking midfielders supporting Naismith in any given game. So there's two questions I suppose. ETA: The issue I think is most managers don't fancy Fletcher's energy levels as a lone striker. Especially important in games where we're not going to see much of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 How many of those games has he started as centre forward? Assuming we have an attacking 4, Naismith can play any of those positions. The question isn't really can Naismith and Fletcher play together, Naismith is versatile enough that they can in our current formation. It's more is Fletcher good enough to be a lone striker? What he lacks in pace he makes up for in touch and strength, with Naismith behind him I think they could work well together. Naismith is a definite starter for the foreseeable future though, so the question is if Fletcher is better than any of the three attacking midfielders supporting Naismith in any given game. So there's two questions I suppose. ETA: The issue I think is most managers don't fancy Fletcher's energy levels as a lone striker. Especially important in games where we're not going to see much of the ball. You're probably right - yet Mario Frick has a decent goal return for one of the worst teams in Europe and he was awful. Kenny Miller played up front on his own with pace and yet his goal return is not substantially better than Frick's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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