Jump to content

NO to devolution or there will be riots, rape and mayhem!


Crùbag

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 50
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Yeah, I don't like these things where people dig up 20 second clips of someone saying something outrageous. Until I see the whole speech I'm impartial on this one.

Salmond did himself no favours by constantly quoting Darling saying he agrees with a currency union a while back. When you watch the actual clip he says he'd prefer it to the alternatives an independent Scotland has but really he doesn't like the sound of any of them and he thinks a currency union carries a lot of problems with it. Salmond and the Yes Scotland side have so much more to work with than the Better Together side in terms of presenting rational arguments, so to resort to quoting people out of context like a tabloid newspaper is pretty shite.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In fairness, I reckon you're allowed to change your mind over 35 years, even if he is suggesting a doomsday scenario after devolution.

Though he hasn't. He used to be a Maoist (!!) and is now a...? Does he call himself a socialist?

The fear he spreads about independence is marginally less ridiculous than this.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah, I don't like these things where people dig up 20 second clips of someone saying something outrageous. Until I see the whole speech I'm impartial on this one.

Agree but there is some relevency here. Darling, Lamont and co's main argument seem to be around the positivity and opportunity created by devolution: "Best of both worlds with a strong parliament at home", "a guarantee of more powers that the Scottish people want", even the laughable suggestion that a No vote ensures more powers than a Yes one (nah, me neither).

These are people with a public record of actually opposing pretty much the only positive thing they have to offer. If we're to avoid a complete shafting post No, we'll need these people to stand up for Scotland and it's parliament. There is absolutely no reason to believe they will.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Though he hasn't. He used to be a Maoist (!!) and is now a...? Does he call himself a socialist?

The fear he spreads about independence is marginally less ridiculous than this.

So as a young firebrand trying to make his way in left wing party he comes out with dramatics, as a more mature man in a less left wing party his tone has changed, how weird is that ? As far as I can see he's not really 'spreading fear', now who's being dramatic !

Link to comment
Share on other sites

So as a young firebrand trying to make his way in left wing party he comes out with dramatics, as a more mature man in a less left wing party his tone has changed, how weird is that ? As far as I can see he's not really 'spreading fear', now who's being dramatic !

Are you seriously saying that BT is not spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt? It's been their modus operandi. Even the No camp itself has come out and said it's messages have been too focussed on the negative aspects of a Yes vote.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Are you seriously saying that BT is not spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt? It's been their modus operandi. Even the No camp itself has come out and said it's messages have been too focussed on the negative aspects of a Yes vote.

Modus operandi was exactly the expression I was going to use. Anyone who thinks this is anything but a further shameful expose, that these people will flagrantly peddle fear and lies, is either deluded or unwilling.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It hasn't been verified. It was shown in a bbc clip which, I'll concede makes it look like he's talking about devolution.

'CS gas cannisters already issues to the army.' Before a referendum? Doesn't make sense.

Sounds like a speech about miners strikes or something to me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It hasn't been verified. It was shown in a bbc clip which, I'll concede makes it look like he's talking about devolution.

'CS gas cannisters already issues to the army.' Before a referendum? Doesn't make sense.

Sounds like a speech about miners strikes or something to me.

Really?

That's probably even worse - if ever that was possible.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...