P.A.F.C Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 saw Newton Stewart were entrants in the first Scottish Amateur Cup in 1910? but have been unable to find any results for them in local press . Any body help Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 You will probably be struggling if they weren't in the local paper. Only a smatterring of Amateur Cup results tend to appear in the national papers - and I'm unsure if many at all would in its opening season. Unlike the Scottish Juniors some historical records of the Scottish Amateurs have survived, but only from 1943. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.F.C Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 You will probably be struggling if they weren't in the local paper. Only a smatterring of Amateur Cup results tend to appear in the national papers - and I'm unsure if many at all would in its opening season. Unlike the Scottish Juniors some historical records of the Scottish Amateurs have survived, but only from 1943. thanks HibeeJibee, thought it would be difficult to find out, What were the requirements to enter the cup strange considering NS were SFA members and 3 0r 4 years earlier had competed in the Scottish Reserve Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 You could enter if you were Amateur, hence Queen's Park entered up until very recently (although they normally entered their 2nd XI). Clubs from all over Scottish football participated in the early decades. Coldstream won it while in the EOS League as I recall did Murrayfield Amateurs who were quite a strong club in Senior non-league football. Various clubs would be playing in both the Scottish Cup and the Amateur Cup for that reason. EDIT: It's a great shame that little if any records have been kept. I don't know if an official record of results, dates etc. of the Finals exist. They have a full record of results in England. It would take a titanic effort of research here and until recent decades I doubt a lot could be found. I've got a British Newspaper Archive membership so I'll check that, plus Scotsman Digital Archive. EDIT: Nothing. It seems the Scotsman did no more than devote 5 lines to the Final, which was: Thursday 28th April 1910 at Love Street Paisley Academicals 1-6 John Neilson's FP (HT: 0-0) EDIT AGAIN: Ha ha, result !! Don't say your uncle HibeeJibee isn't good to you: Saturday 5th March 1910 Scottish Amateur Cup Creetown Volunteers 1-6 Newton Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.F.C Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 You could enter if you were Amateur, hence Queen's Park entered up until very recently (although they normally entered their 2nd XI). Clubs from all over Scottish football participated in the early decades. Coldstream won it while in the EOS League as I recall did Murrayfield Amateurs who were quite a strong club in Senior non-league football. Various clubs would be playing in both the Scottish Cup and the Amateur Cup for that reason. EDIT: It's a great shame that little if any records have been kept. I don't know if an official record of results, dates etc. of the Finals exist. They have a full record of results in England. It would take a titanic effort of research here and until recent decades I doubt a lot could be found. I've got a British Newspaper Archive membership so I'll check that, plus Scotsman Digital Archive. EDIT: Nothing. It seems the Scotsman did no more than devote 5 lines to the Final, which was: Thursday 28th April 1910 at Love Street Paisley Academicals 1-6 John Neilson's FP (HT: 0-0) EDIT AGAIN: Ha ha, result !! Don't say your uncle HibeeJibee isn't good to you: Saturday 5th March 1910 Scottish Amateur Cup Creetown Volunteers 1-6 Newton Stewart Thanks will check local papers again now I have a date to go on, may have missed it before as the papers football reports could be placed anywhere not like todays back pages. Could be pestering you again as I am currently putting a history of football in NS together and surprisingly our sleepy little town has had an active past. THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmccoll Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Forrest Robertson wrote an excellent article in the Scottish Football Historian a couple of years ago which included the results of all the finals. As HJ says, the FA Amateur Cup has a complete record available, including the qualifying rounds. Given the time that has elapsed, plus the press's fixation on the OF and not much else, a Scottish record, I'm afraid may never be compiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qpsnapper Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 You could enter if you were Amateur, hence Queen's Park entered up until very recently (although they normally entered their 2nd XI). Clubs from all over Scottish football participated in the early decades. When we started entering it again about nine/ten years ago it was our Under 19's who played in the competition. No one was really bothered about us entering until we had the temerity to actually win the thing and the rules were quickly changed to bar us from entering unless we put a team into a Saturday amateur league, which, given that our 19's played on a Sunday, we were never going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 When we started entering it again about nine/ten years ago it was our Under 19's who played in the competition. No one was really bothered about us entering until we had the temerity to actually win the thing and the rules were quickly changed to bar us from entering unless we put a team into a Saturday amateur league, which, given that our 19's played on a Sunday, we were never going to do. Played against the 19s in the Scottish at Lesser a few years back, we were lucky to come away with only a 4-0 defeat, moved the ball really well and were good lads as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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