loyal-blue Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So far. I apologise if I've missed this elsewhere, if I have feel free to merge. If anyone else is doing it, some pretty formatting might be nice but I'm on my phone so I don't know how. Score out of 10 and your reasoning behind that score. Feel free to suggest how you believe they could improve. YES - 6/10 I feel that the strength of the yes campaign has been in all the grassroots and groups which have sprung up around the country. The campaign has certainly been positive for the most part and their use of social media has been more effective. However, I can't help but feel they are focusing too much on SNP policies. Recent tweets about tax cuts etc only reflect the SNP view, as do the yes newspapers in large parts. It would be good if they outlined the different visions, although I understand that this is impossible when the other parties refuse to entertain the idea of independence. I would like them to become a bit more negative (amongst the positivity) and really start to spell out what they believe a no vote will mean. They seem to have been heading in that direction recently. NO - 2/10 2/10 may seem like a biased score. Maybe it is. The scaremongering has been ridiculous at times and blatant twistting of information on the EU issue has done little to help their cause. However, defending the status quo is basically an impossible task. There doesn't seem to be a positive case for the union, so I don't know how they should be approaching it. Presumably the tactic now is to just hold on. The rebranding suggests a campaign which wasn't doing as well as expected and while 'yes' is unambiguous the 'Better Together' and 'No Thanks' names are still used interchangeably, suggesting the relaunch wasn't as effective as it should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I genuinely don't think that the No campaign is as important given that Yes are the one's who have been having to make an effort. While some show has to be made to in terms of why we should stay in the union, I don't think it is as vital given how Yes are the ones required to justify the change. That said, I'm sure each person works differently and will no doubt dispute my view. As for the Yes campaign, they've done a fantastic job in terms of their prominence. People are showing great pride, and regardless of the outcome it has been quite heartening to see in a "Wha's like us" kind of way. There is far more prominence in terms of visual displays. I know a lot of people who believe this to be bravado and can't help but being sceptical. I'd actually say in terms of the doom mongering, from an official point of view, you could say that the No campaign trot out excuses in many instances. However, in terms of the people behind the campaign, I know numerous 'No' voters who've received verbal barrages for their views and reservations. A lot of the time, they find it easier just to keep quiet rather than having to spend time justifying their view. And for anyone wondering, I'm not voting or backing either of the parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I genuinely don't think that the No campaign is as important given that Yes are the one's who have been having to make an effort. While some show has to be made to in terms of why we should stay in the union, I don't think it is as vital given how Yes are the ones required to justify the change. That said, I'm sure each person works differently and will no doubt dispute my view. As for the Yes campaign, they've done a fantastic job in terms of their prominence. People are showing great pride, and regardless of the outcome it has been quite heartening to see in a "Wha's like us" kind of way. There is far more prominence in terms of visual displays. I know a lot of people who believe this to be bravado and can't help but being sceptical. I'd actually say in terms of the doom mongering, from an official point of view, you could say that the No campaign trot out excuses in many instances. However, in terms of the people behind the campaign, I know numerous 'No' voters who've received verbal barrages for their views and reservations. A lot of the time, they find it easier just to keep quiet rather than having to spend time justifying their view. And for anyone wondering, I'm not voting or backing either of the parties. That's interesting, can I ask why you're not voting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 No: 2/10 Yes: 3/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yes Scotland 3/10 Better together 2/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 95% positive for YES 100% negative for NO. Doesn't let me calculate my pension though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yes Scotland 1/10 Better Together 0/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yes -7/10 UKOK-3/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I know numerous 'No' voters who've received verbal barrages for their views and reservations. A lot of the time, they find it easier just to keep quiet rather than having to spend time justifying their view.I think there's a lot of truth in that - they can be very passionate but at times it can be overly-aggressive - and that does seriously piss people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I think there's a lot of truth in that - they can be very passionate but at times it can be overly-aggressive - and that does seriously piss people off. I can understand that it may be seen as aggression by some but I'm sure it's not meant to be. It's mostly over exuberance and enthusiasm from people who have actually woken up in a political sense and can't believe it when others choose not to be open to the same epiphany. So many of these people are shouting WAKE UP SCOTLAND FFS". Some people are choosing not to hear that message. It's actually very refreshing that there are thousands more people who are taking an interest because they actually care, whereas before apathy ruled the day. I include myself in that bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 95% positive for YES 100% negative for NO. Doesn't let me calculate my pension though. ^^^ average No voter. On topic: Yes Scotland 7/10 - Haven't played enough dirty tricks, imo. Keeps us the "good guys" though. BTUKOKNOTHANKS 0.000000004/10 - Essentially a horrific shower of liars, doom mongers and selfish bawbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 ^^^ average No voter. On topic: Yes Scotland 7/10 - Haven't played enough dirty tricks, imo. Keeps us the "good guys" though. BTUKOKNOTHANKS 0.000000004/10 - Essentially a horrific shower of liars, doom mongers and selfish bawbags. More cybernats tears, everyone get your umbrella. Yes -10/10 lies and lack of facts No 8/10 (good enough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ah look, the nurse let the irrational fuckwit have a keyboard again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yes -10/10 :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Whatever c***s you nats mix scaremongering up with facts so I think you guys are the fuckwits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Whatever c***s you nats mix scaremongering up with facts so I think you guys are the fuckwits. Would you like some mayo with your delicious word salad, young man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_Rodger Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Would you like some mayo with your delicious word salad, young man? Nope only a no vote. Glad it's less than 2 months away from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Nope only a no vote. Glad it's less than 2 months away from happening. Must be quite something, being able to vote before you're able to shave or take a girl to Nando's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I think YES started well. I enjoyed listening to Eck. Without doubt he's the most cogent and compelling politician in Britain. So pre The White Paper I'd rate them 9/10. However, that paper has more holes in it than the 300g of Emmental I bought at the weekend and, since then, YES have been backpedaling like f**k and are looking increasing desperate. Current situation? 1/10. As for BT? What a fucking shambles. Now loyal-blue (I ken his big team) is right saying, "defending the status quo is basically an impossible task". Another phrase for 'defending the status quo' is, 'parking the bus'. Not glam, not pretty and doesn't win you many friends but 'parking the bus' does get you to a Yoofa final sometimes. However, BT haven't parked the fucking bus they have buried it; alienated a fair few folk and made themselves look like the utter fannies than they are. BT make me ashamed to be a Unionist TBH and, although they will win the poll,l they do not deserve to. BT -2,400/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 UKOK. Could they not have come up with something better than a slogan which says the UK is distinctly mediocre and nothing more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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