stumigoo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Following on from the more immediate Brazil version a look at the future Qatar world cup. A human rights group has compiled a report that suggests up to 400 Nepalese migrant workers have died since construction began in the country. Link FIFA have a responsibility of making sure that the world's biggest sporting competition maintains some kind of decency. I know money plays a huge part and essentially it drives any decision made by FIFA, but this is pretty horrific stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I doubt many of the biggest fish at FIFA care, unfortunately. They took criticism when they chose Qatar, and will take criticism for it over the next 8 years - but will they change their decision? I doubt it. They'll get the Qatari's to make a few more platitudes and unveil a few more codes of conduct, then plough-on regardless. Plenty money in it, not to mention any of the alleged underhand stuff, and they're a largely immoral bunch already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawfieldAggro Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If Qatar's apparently zero tolerance policy towards perceived 'Western' culture, eg boozing, PDA's (both hetero and gay by the way) didnt budge Fifa from accepting their bid, why would anything??? Hopefully pan-European anarchism will break out before then and we won't have to.worry about a World Cup at all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st jude Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The world cup will not be held in Qatar. Absloute farce since day 1. Everyone knew it was going to fail. Seen in another thread that theres stadiums to be bulit in citys that haven't even been built. That report is staggering but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st jude Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yes it will. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawfieldAggro Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sainty, Fifa knew fine well about the cities that werent built yet. They were part of the original project, so in that respect its Fifas fault for awarding it to them. Even if there was a boycott of this event, they'd only fill the grounds with the workers who arent dead probably as part of their wages. Your mistake here Stumigoo is believing the powers that be give a f**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sainty, Fifa knew fine well about the cities that werent built yet. They were part of the original project, so in that respect its Fifas fault for awarding it to them. Even if there was a boycott of this event, they'd only fill the grounds with the workers who arent dead probably as part of their wages. Your mistake here Stumigoo is believing the powers that be give a f**k. No believe me, I know they don't, I stopped thinking they did a long time ago. I wonder though how bad things could get before someone does say something that might put pressure on FIFA. Mind you, I don't know who would, who would be big enough to put pressure on FIFA? The UN? Individual governments wouldn't be enough. The easiest way would be if some of the sponsors decided to put strain on their relationship with FIFA, then they would take notice fairly quickly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The world cup will not be held in Qatar. Absloute farce since day 1. Everyone knew it was going to fail. Seen in another thread that theres stadiums to be bulit in citys that haven't even been built. That report is staggering but. Sorry, have I read that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 It should not be for all the reasons mentioned above, but I fear it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Sorry, have I read that right? Yes. City of Lusail (to hold biggest stadium) hasn't been built yet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusail 6 stadiums in Doha. Madinat-ash-Shamal population = 5,000 and the whole region's population is <8,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madinat_ash_Shamal which is roughly equivalent to building Stamford Bridge on the Isle of Skye. They only have 1 compliant stadium at the moment. Further 2 are to be expanded (doubling in size) with 9 being built from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Move it to Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_team_for_me Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 anyone notice that if any country is chosen over England for any event the media seems to develop an obsession to show the world how incapable that country is to hold the event. The English media are truly a horrible horrible breed of people who think anything that is English is far superior to anything else. Bunch of deluded supremacist c***s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OP Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 anyone notice that if any country is chosen over England for any event the media seems to develop an obsession to show the world how incapable that country is to hold the event. The English media are truly a horrible horrible breed of people who think anything that is English is far superior to anything else. Bunch of deluded supremacist c***s.True to a certain extent, although it should be noted that (pre-Games) they were generally pretty sceptical about their own ability to host a decent Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st jude Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 What the hell are they going to do after the finals when they're left with loads of massive stadiums, not that it really matters to them with endless pots of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 What the hell are they going to do after the finals when they're left with loads of massive stadiums, not that it really matters to them with endless pots of money. They said they would take them down and rebuild them in poor African countries.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 They said they would take them down and rebuild them in poor African countries.. Is that so some of these countries have somewhere to put their refugees? That's always the headline in African refugee type situations, "the refugees were then taken to the local football stadium". Good of the Qatar government to think of the poor people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Some of them will no doubt rot away. In the case of the Lusail Iconic Stadium, it seems the plan is to built it for 86,000-odd then cut it back to 20,000 after the tournament. They claim some of the stadiums will have dismantleable upper tiers which will be donated to third-world countries. Average attendances in the Qatar top division are about 5,000 - although seemingly half actually average under 1,000 - and apparently some of them are paid spectators*. As host of the 2005 Asian Cup their games drew 37k (opening match), 30k and 28k in a 40,000+ capacity stadium. *http://www.dohastadiumplusqatar.com/qslm-sweats-stars-play-empty-galleries/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attendance_figures_at_domestic_professional_sports_leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The "air conditioned" stadiums that are apparently going t be used to keep spectators and players safe during the extreme heats haven't even been tested as being able to work yet, not to mention the fact theres nothing in place to keep spectators safe from the heat outwith the grounds. There'll be deaths at this, no doubt about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Is that so some of these countries have somewhere to put their refugees? That's always the headline in African refugee type situations, "the refugees were then taken to the local football stadium". Good of the Qatar government to think of the poor people! Also a traditional venue for torturing and executing rebels.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 anyone notice that if any country is chosen over England for any event the media seems to develop an obsession to show the world how incapable that country is to hold the event. The English media are truly a horrible horrible breed of people who think anything that is English is far superior to anything else. Bunch of deluded supremacist c***s. Qatar wasn't chosen over England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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