[Enrico Annoni]

2012 will mark 60 years since Lizzy took the throne. No doubt a ridiculous amount of money will be spent celebrating this.

Does anyone still get excited over the royal family? Do people get a wee tear in the eye seeing a women who has acquired wealth and power through birthright?

I'd get shot of them in a heartbeat if it was my decision, but sadly it's not.

So, Let's have a poll, see what the fellow P&Ber's think!

[Broccoli Dog]

Send them to live with these guys.

[Unleash The Nade]

Broccoli Dog, on 03 February 2012 - 14:09, said:

Send them to live with these guys.

What do Ad Libs family have to do with all of this??

[Swampy]

I've been reading a lot of charm-offensive material from the monarchists lately about how hard the queen works and how it must be exhausting for her to have 370+ public engagements each year at her age. I agree completely with this. So why not let her retire? Monarchists talk about her tirelessness and her stoicism as if it's a good thing. Is it really? Keeping a pensioner in a gilded cage, having her shake hands with diplomats every day for the cameras, doesn't exactly point to the virtue of monarchists. It marks them out as people for whom the institution and the authority is more important than the person.

From my point of view it would be as much of a benefit to the royals as to the country to abolish the monarchy and it should be done immediately.

[Swampy]

Just to follow that up: I'm far more concerned with the country than I am the royals. I don't mean to come across as if sympathy for the Windsors is my motivation. It's only a small part of it. Having an illiberal system of governnance run on hereditary principles is an absolute affront to what British society should stand for - that's the long and short of it.

[ForzaDundee]

Can't believe it's 2012 yet we still don't have democracy.

I've began to think that all those who "support" the continuation of the Monarchy are just trolling.

This post has been edited by ForzaDundee: 03 February 2012 - 14:25

[kiwififer]

Jan 1st, BBC1 and there's a programme on about how much the queen loves Scotland.

Just saying likes.....

[The Old Northerner]

I think their time has come and gone, right enough

[ThatBoyRonaldo]

Get them to f**k. I can just about tolerate the Queen and actually quite like Chaz but the thought that Prince William will one day rule over me can f**k right off. Luckily Scotland will be an independent republic before that ever happens.

[uni]

I say we get rid of them Bolshevik style.

[Swampy]

If anyone happens to be in London on June 3rd you will be made most welcome here:

http://www.jubileeprotest.org.uk/

[Colkitto]

Geri Halliwell launches UJ collection for the Jubilee...............

[capybara]

And of course you get Cameron and co spouting a load of tosh about the Jubilee bringing as all togeather at this difficult time. Aye right. It will not help pay my mortgage or gas bills.

It is an outmoded relic from the past, mind you could have a President. How about President Blair. Nice.

[Paulo Sergio]

The only benefit for me of there being a royal family is you get the odd day off like the royal wedding last year.

[Gordon EF]

I agree pretty much with everything Swampy said. The fact that we still cling to remnants of a past, and much worse, age like the monarchy, the house of lords and the honours system should be a source of absolute shame for anyone in this country.

Independence and ditch the lot of it.

[Enrico Annoni]

Colkitto, on 03 February 2012 - 14:41, said:

Geri Halliwell launches UJ collection for the Jubilee...............

Still would

[Mr. Brightside]

No Kings.

[Swampy]

Mr. Brightside, on 03 February 2012 - 15:10, said:

No Kings.

Preach.

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[A_dee4life]

It's downright disgusting.

Think alot of people hold back on expressing their republican views because Mrs Windsor is a respectable old lady but the whole situation will change once one of the males get their hands on the throne. I for one certaintly won't hold back for those c***s.

[uni]

Let's look at the SNP's policy on this we will be a republic in no time!...oh wait.

[Swampy]

uni, on 03 February 2012 - 16:13, said:

Let's look at the SNP's policy on this we will be a republic in no time!...oh wait.

The SNP's policy on this makes political sense, but morally and in terms of just being a good idea, it's awful. I can fully understand why they're doing what they're doing but it disgusts me every time I think of it.

[Enrico Annoni]

Would be nice to hear from people who support the royal family and why they believe we should keep it

[Swampy]

Enrico Annoni, on 03 February 2012 - 16:16, said:

Would be nice to hear from people who support the royal family and why they believe we should keep it

One of them tried on this thread but he devolved into a tear-drenched, tone-trolling mess after around six posts or so:

http://www.pieandbov...al-monarchists/

[Granny Danger]

uni, on 03 February 2012 - 16:13, said:

Let's look at the SNP's policy on this we will be a republic in no time!...oh wait.

It may be SNP policy but, like many things, it will be easier to ditch the royals in an independent Scotland than it would be as part of the UK.

Can't add much to Swampy's earlier comments. I cringe every time there is a story about the royals on the news, particularly when it take priority over real news.