[Savage Henry]

Notwithstanding the fact that his general level of play doesn't merit inclusion in the England team anyway, it seems John Terry is to be stripped of the England arm band. When clubs are having to cancel the pre-match hand shakes on account of one player, that one player ought not to be England captain. Good to see the FA taking such a course of action, but of course, it should have happened a long time ago. I wonder if Capello will have the guts to drop the guy completely?

Rotten Racist b*****d From A Thieving Scumbag Family Is Nice To Kids and Loved In Chelsea

[Spain]

I can understand the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing, but the guys a clown. I don't understand why they felt it was ok to give it back to him after the last time he was stripped off it. He's a complete c**t. but he's also rubbish anyway.

[MariusZaliukas]

He's a born leader and clearly the best English CB. Anyone who can't see that doesn't have a clue about football.

[Savage Henry]

MariusZaliukas, on 03 February 2012 - 08:15, said:

He's a born leader and clearly the best English CB. Anyone who can't see that doesn't have a clue about football.

Not even Chelsea fans believe that. Fail.

[Tynieness]

MariusZaliukas, on 03 February 2012 - 08:15, said:

He's a born leader and clearly the best English CB. Anyone who can't see that doesn't have a clue about football.

Terry has been in decline for years . Not having cavaliho to cover for his lack of pace etc has only highlighted this.

On the other matters of Terry the man - well he is a piece of shot

just ask the people he was doing aeroplane imnpressions in front of only days after 9/11
ask wayne bridge
check the NOTW archives where he was taking backhanders to show folk around stamford bridge........ etc etc

[Caddon]

Savage Henry, on 03 February 2012 - 04:26, said:

Notwithstanding the fact that his general level of play doesn't merit inclusion in the England team anyway, it seems John Terry is to be stripped of the England arm band. When clubs are having to cancel the pre-match hand shakes on account of one player, that one player ought not to be England captain. Good to see the FA taking such a course of action, but of course, it should have happened a long time ago. I wonder if Capello will have the guts to drop the guy completely?

Rotten Racist b*****d From A Thieving Scumbag Family Is Nice To Kids and Loved In Chelsea

Erm, Ferdinand? I'm sure Mr Terry was happy to shake hands........ The man may be w@nker but he's yet to be proven guilty of racism. Will you be badgering the Uruguayan FA to kick out Suarez?

[Enrico Annoni]

When Craig Bellamy has a go at you, I think that just shows how much of a scumbag Terry really is

[KnightswoodBear]

Tynieness, on 03 February 2012 - 08:34, said:

Terry has been in decline for years . Not having cavaliho to cover for his lack of pace etc has only highlighted this.

This. It's a mark of how good Carvaliho was/is that he made Terry look like a star. As soon as he left Terry's lack of pace and positional disipline was there for all to see.

I remember Joachim Löw after Germany pumped England in South Africa was asked how they managed to take England apart so easily and his matter of fact reply was along the lines of "Terry is really easy to drag out of position, so we just targeted him" or words to that effect

[Aufc]

MariusZaliukas, on 03 February 2012 - 08:15, said:

He's a born leader and clearly the best English CB. Anyone who can't see that doesn't have a clue about football.

He is awful. The best english CB is ledley king. It's a shame his knees are absolute chocolate.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

KnightswoodBear, on 03 February 2012 - 09:17, said:

This. It's a mark of how good Carvaliho was/is that he made Terry look like a star. As soon as he left Terry's lack of pace and positional disipline was there for all to see.

Agreed, I think Carvalho must be one of the most underrated players in the last decade. It is no coincidence that Chelsea have gone downhill and Madrid have been much more solid at the back since he went there. Unfortunately for him, he now has to cover for the mistakes of Pepe who is even more of a liability than Terry!

[Enrico Annoni]

Aufc, on 03 February 2012 - 09:27, said:

He is awful. The best english CB is ledley king. It's a shame his knees are absolute chocolate.

Racist

[KnightswoodBear]

Aufc, on 03 February 2012 - 09:27, said:

He is awful. The best english CB is ledley king. It's a shame his knees are absolute chocolate.

I was at the Spurs - Sunderland game before christmas and I actually took a minute or two to watch King on his own. He really is a fantastic player.

The Spurs fans song of "Oh Ledley, Ledley, he's only got one knee, he's better than John Terry, oh Ledley, Ledley" is genius as well.

This post has been edited by KnightswoodBear: 03 February 2012 - 09:33

[Mackie The Staggie]

MariusZaliukas, on 03 February 2012 - 08:15, said:

He's a born leader and clearly the best English CB. Anyone who can't see that doesn't have a clue about football.

To be fair he is one of the better English CB's around (although when the competition is Rio and Cahill it's not a great field to chose from) but by no means is he the defender he was 5 years ago.

He's prone to be caught under the ball more often than not, is slow on the turn and it's fair comment to say that he no longer commands the same following he did as a captain before the Bridge issues and the Ferdinand complaint.

There's no way he could have been the captain for England but likewise no way he will not be going, so the only question is will he have the same disabling affect he had on the squad at the Euro's as he did at South Africa.

[sergie's no1 fan]

Caddon, on 03 February 2012 - 08:58, said:

Erm, Ferdinand? I'm sure Mr Terry was happy to shake hands........ The man may be w@nker but he's yet to be proven guilty of racism. Will you be badgering the Uruguayan FA to kick out Suarez?

Mr Terry would of been delighted to shake hands, to con the public into thinking he isn't a scumbag.

Too late John.

We know what you are we know what you are John Terry we know what you are.

[bunglebonce]

He's not as bad as some make him out to be. He clearly needs a good sweeper beside him, though.

There are two things I like about him as a player:

1) His ability to play his best, even when all hell is going off in his personal life.
2) His distribution of the ball. He's a very tidy defender with the ball at his feet. The second best pass completion % in the EPL. He is, of course, aided by Chelsea almost always using a Mikel/Romeu figure at the base of the midfield. That gives him an easy pass when needed, but he doesn't just rely on that.

Those are the main exceptions to him being a grade A c**t, though.

This post has been edited by bunglebonce: 03 February 2012 - 09:46

[MariusZaliukas]

Aufc, on 03 February 2012 - 09:27, said:

He is awful. The best english CB is ledley king. It's a shame his knees are absolute chocolate.

Ridiculous. How can someone who can't play 2/3 games in a row and isn't even able to train be better.

[deky]

I'm glad to see that "innocent until proven guilty" no longer applies.

Who wants justice to be done or court appearances.

Terry comes across as a w****r, Ferdinand said he used racist language, therefoe he's a racist scumbag.

gnashh gnash, wail wail grrr racist grrr.

[Enrico Annoni]

deky, on 03 February 2012 - 10:01, said:

I'm glad to see that "innocent until proven guilty" no longer applies.

Who wants justice to be done or court appearances.

I dont think anyone is saying he is guilty, But he has been charged.

it's only sensible thing for the FA to do. You cant have a man leading his country that has been charged with giving out racist abuse.

Keeping in mind the "outrage" from the FA over Sepp Blatter comments about settling it with a handshake

[forameus]

He may not be the player he once was, but he's probably the best leader England have on the football pitch. But given the England captaincy gets passed around more often than Vanessa Perroncel, it's started to get a bit silly. I would say no matter how much of a grade A c**t the guy is (and he really, really is) he should remain the captain. After all, who really cares what's going on in his private life? That was the reason he was stripped of it the first time. So he pumped an ex-teammates ex-girlfriend. And he paid for her to keep quiet. What a b*****d. Did that affect his football? No.

If he is convicted of the crime he is in court for, then yes, by all means strip him of the captaincy, but all these people spouting pish down south about how he should be removed because of "the example he would set to kids". If your kids are taking their examples from footballers, then blame your deficient parenting.

[deky]

Enrico Annoni, on 03 February 2012 - 10:06, said:

I dont think anyone is saying he is guilty, But he has been charged.

it's only sensible thing for the FA to do. You cant have a man leading his country that has been charged with giving out racist abuse.

Keeping in mind the "outrage" from the FA over Sepp Blatter comments about settling it with a handshake

Not many people are saying he's guilty, but many are saying he's racist, which is implying guilt.

A charge doesn't mean he's guilty.

I just can't believe it's being allowed to drag on for so long.

Suarez has all but served his ban, yet this won't be concluded until July.

I'm sure Terry would rather have it over and done with too.

I see what you'rer saying, but if a charge is enough to keep someone form their job, why bother with a trial and how will terry get a fair trial now anyway?

[Savage Henry]

Caddon, on 03 February 2012 - 08:58, said:

Erm, Ferdinand? I'm sure Mr Terry was happy to shake hands........ The man may be w@nker but he's yet to be proven guilty of racism. Will you be badgering the Uruguayan FA to kick out Suarez?

Please tell me that isn't a serious post.


By the way, anyone who has seen the youtube footage knows that John Terry is guilty.

[Enrico Annoni]

deky, on 03 February 2012 - 10:20, said:

Not many people are saying he's guilty, but many are saying he's racist, which is implying guilt.

A charge doesn't mean he's guilty.

I just can't believe it's being allowed to drag on for so long.

Suarez has all but served his ban, yet this won't be concluded until July.

I'm sure Terry would rather have it over and done with too.

I see what you'rer saying, but if a charge is enough to keep someone form their job, why bother with a trial and how will terry get a fair trial now anyway?

Plenty of people arre remanded into custody when being charged for a crime waiting for the case to be called to court, doesnt mean they are guilty either,

Unfortunatly waiting for a charge to come to court isn't something uncommon in Scotland or England, Keeping in mind this is a pretty "low level" crime compared to what the courts deal with every other day. They can't treat him any different to anybody else.

dont think we can compare Terry and Suarez, Keeping in mind Suarez was only dealt with by the FA. bit of a difference between them and the English legal system.

This post has been edited by Enrico Annoni: 03 February 2012 - 10:41

[Savage Henry]

A fair question doing the rounds on Twitter right now - who replaces him?

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

Savage Henry, on 03 February 2012 - 10:58, said:

A fair question doing the rounds on Twitter right now - who replaces him?

I think Joe Hart would be the best choice, although it will probably be Ferdinand who gets the armband again.

[craigkillie]

Savage Henry, on 03 February 2012 - 10:58, said:

A fair question doing the rounds on Twitter right now - who replaces him?

I'd give it to Rooney. He's the only captain-type player who can 100% be guaranteed his place. No point in giving it to Parker/Ferdinand/Lampard/Gerrard when you can't be sure they'll start games. The fact he's a hot-head and won't be available for the first 2 games at the Euros means he probably won't get it.