[Tim Malloy]

Whats got 4 legs & more money than rangers?






















Harry Redknapps dug

This post has been edited by Tim Malloy: 04 February 2012 - 13:54

[MarreZ]

Tim Malloy, on 04 February 2012 - 13:53, said:

Whats got 4 legs & more money than rangers?






















Harry Redknapps dug

Yeh the radio was good today.

[Dosser91]

From what I've read and heard recently, many football clubs have this arrangement with Ticketus. Does anyone know if the majority of senior Scottish clubs have the same arrangement? What about the likes of Motherwell, Aberdeen, St Mirren, Falkirk, Forfar, Brechin City etc etc?

What kind of company is Ticketus? Are they like a Credit Union which exists as a non profit making entity to help clubs or is there something in it for them? Craig Whyte has raised issues which have implications for many sets of fans.

[jupe1407]

Dosser91, on 05 February 2012 - 10:15, said:

From what I've read and heard recently, many football clubs have this arrangement with Ticketus. Does anyone know if the majority of senior Scottish clubs have the same arrangement? What about the likes of Motherwell, Aberdeen, St Mirren, Falkirk, Forfar, Brechin City etc etc?

What kind of company is Ticketus? Are they like a Credit Union which exists as a non profit making entity to help clubs or is there something in it for them? Craig Whyte has raised issues which have implications for many sets of fans.

I think only the larger clubs use this company. I've not looked into it in any great depth, but i think they provide finance against a certain number of ticket sales. The Record allegation was that Whyte used this to finance the purchase of the club, except whereas most clubs will use a few months worth of ticket sales as a security, Whyte allegedly used 3-4 seasons worth. If true, that's a huge gamble.

I can't see anyone other than the OF using this scheme in Scotland. I think you need to have a pretty high number of season ticket holders to make it work.

Less a credit union, more a payday loan company.

[CityDave]

Dosser91, on 05 February 2012 - 10:15, said:

From what I've read and heard recently, many football clubs have this arrangement with Ticketus. Does anyone know if the majority of senior Scottish clubs have the same arrangement? What about the likes of Motherwell, Aberdeen, St Mirren, Falkirk, Forfar, Brechin City etc etc?

What kind of company is Ticketus? Are they like a Credit Union which exists as a non profit making entity to help clubs or is there something in it for them? Craig Whyte has raised issues which have implications for many sets of fans.

Google Ticketus and you come up with Principle First - Octopus VCT Investments

and they explain the use of Venture Capital Trusts and use Ticketus as an example - My link

[LinkinFighter]

17,000 loyal fans at the game today

Not long now

[2THibs]

LinkinFighter, on 05 February 2012 - 14:48, said:

17,000 loyal fans at the game today

Not long now

Marvellous show of solidarity by the rangers fans to spur whyte into splashing the cash. That'll show him

[vikingTON]

Not sure if I actually want them to die any more, more a sort of lingering irrelevance like today's performance and crowd.

[LinkinFighter]

My link

[HibeeJibee]

McCoist, for all he's being painted as the 'poor unfortunate' in all this, must take a good deal of responsibility for his own budgetary constraints.


Whyte, in today's Scotland on Sunday, confirms Rangers budgeted on reaching EL Group-stage = £5M...

... defeats to Malmo then lowly Maribor stuffed that.


Exited League Cup in last 16, v Falkirk. Run over.

Exited Scottish Cup in last 16, home to Dundee Utd. Run over.


Turned 14pts league advantage into 4pt defecit by January, eroding any security in budgeting for league victory.


Millions-upon-millions down the spout, basically.

[JamboMikey]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/16778861

Check the first boy in the fans interviews on that. WE PAY GID MUNNEY SO WE DAE!!!

Aye, welcome to what it feels like to support a real football team.

[Dosser91]

I really don't buy into this "Ally is working to a tight budget." business. He has a playing budget 38 other clubs would love to have. How would he do for example if his budget was cut to say £3m annually?

[Dindeleux]

Why do HMRC have to do something? (in the bbc video in the link)

[FrugalNory]

Dindeleux, on 05 February 2012 - 19:46, said:

Why do HMRC have to do something? (in the bbc video in the link)

Because they do. So they do. :-)

[mozam76]

The one thing that's puzzled me this week, is the reaction of the Rangers support, when they say "we want answers - we know nothing - we're in the dark etc". Because it appears to me that Craig Whyte has been in the media more since May, than David Murray ever was. Whether or not the Rangers supporters believe what he says is a different matter right enough, but to say that they are being told nothing, is arrant nonsense.

Incidentally, I don't know if it's been posted elsewhere, but there was another interview with Craig Whyte in the Scotland on Sunday today. Don't think Tom English gave him an easy ride.

Craig Whyte Interview

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[Captain_Sensible]

vikingTON, on 05 February 2012 - 15:03, said:

Not sure if I actually want them to die any more, more a sort of lingering irrelevance like today's performance and crowd.

Enough about Morton, what's your view on Rangers?

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[wisbit]

Captain_Sensible, on 05 February 2012 - 20:24, said:

Enough about Morton, what's your view on Rangers?

You cannae buy it !!!

[Dewsburydude]

Rangers fan protest puts Green Brigade to shame Protest Banner

[scottiekdy]

TAIL ON THE DONKEY WHEN RANGERS DIE

[vanpablo79]

Dewsburydude, on 05 February 2012 - 20:36, said:

Rangers fan protest puts Green Brigade to shame Protest Banner

felt guilty for laughing as he is only young and may still grow out of rangers.

[Thistle_do_nicely]

LinkinFighter, on 05 February 2012 - 17:14, said:

My link

"People come from miles around to watch Rangers."

How about... and here's an idea... instead of travelling from Perth/Dundee/Aberdeen or wherever, they actually support the teams that are a bit closer to home?

Revolutionary, I know.

Anyway, that video is loltacular.

[HibeeJibee]

mozam76, on 05 February 2012 - 20:14, said:

Incidentally, I don't know if it's been posted elsewhere, but there was another interview with Craig Whyte in the Scotland on Sunday today. Don't think Tom English gave him an easy ride.

Craig Whyte Interview

If you take his responses at face value, then you get a bit of an insight into what's going on. Rangers have big debts, run at a defecit, and spending their way out of trouble isn't an option. Whyte has put up some of his own money, e.g. in clearing some debt upon purchasing the club, but he wants it to start washing its own face. (His plan is presumably Fergus McCann style... sort things out, then sell it for profit in X years... or he just enjoys the challenge).

It might be lies-n-smokescreens, of course, but it's interesting to read his perspective.

[wisbit]

HibeeJibee, on 05 February 2012 - 22:41, said:

If you take his responses at face value, then you get a bit of an insight into what's going on. Rangers have big debts, run at a defecit, and spending their way out of trouble isn't an option. Whyte has put up some of his own money, e.g. in clearing some debt upon purchasing the club, but he wants it to start washing its own face. (His plan is presumably Fergus McCann style... sort things out, then sell it for profit in X years... or he just enjoys the challenge).

It might be lies-n-smokescreens, of course, but it's interesting to read his perspective.

Mr Daz has entered this full knowing whats in store an has ventured down every avenue to find various outcomes.

[itzdrk]

Quote

We're having a party, when rangers die,

We're having a party, when rangers die,

Jelly and ice cream, when rangers die,

Jelly and ice cream, when rangers die,

Pass the parcel, when rangers die,

Pass the parcel, when rangers die,

Tail on the donkey, when rangers die,

Tail on the donkey, when rangers die,

Musical chairs, when rangers die,
Musical chairs, when rangers die,

if thats actually a song id love to hear it

but a question, im sure i read somewhere craig whyte claimed they had to spend £4M on ibrox

i mean yes they have had some problems with some of it, but £4M problems surely not

This post has been edited by itzdrk: 05 February 2012 - 23:10

[aidan-bufc]

LinkinFighter, on 05 February 2012 - 17:14, said:

My link

I genuinely had sympathy for the older guy with the Rangers scarf on at the end just because he has probably seen many highs and lows at that club and now its seems like he will be going through the lowest of the low.

Ah well, f**k Rangers!