[trgf]

ayrmad, on 31 January 2012 - 09:56, said:

Not looking for any dramatics.

Time for the Rangers fans to wake up, this guy is no good for Rangers.

How much has he actually put in of his own money for such a big club?

A massive 1 pound.

[Tim Malloy]

ayrmad, on 31 January 2012 - 09:56, said:

Not looking for any dramatics.

Time for the Rangers fans to wake up, this guy is no good for Rangers.

How much has he actually put in of his own money for such a big club?

Sqillians!!!

[Greenlantern]

One of my good mates, a diehard Rangers fan said something very interesting, that made me understand the issue a bit clearer, he said; "na na na na nah nah na na na na na nah nah na .......na na na nah.... I'm not listening!".

[youngsy]

There are a lot of disillusioned Rangers fans at the moment,many of whom wont take up their season tickets next season for a number of reasons. One being the lack of information of the plan of intent as to the running of the club from Whyte. If he has borrowed a specific amount against the forecast of ST money levels and that forecast isn't met by sales then effectively he has driven the club into further debt if payment of this loan isn't sustained. If we've got a shortfall on the forecast then that will affect the ability to pay.

That being the case he is more than likely taking the club into administration,which has probably been his aim since taking up his tenure. Far be it for many Rangers fans having their head in the sand,many have their eyes wide open as to the route Whyte is taking the club down. If it was a three or four year option on the ST at preferential discounts then fair enough that this money is borrowed against those figures but as it seems it's on a ST sales forecast over a period then Whyte is looking at administration for the club.

[ayrmad]

youngsy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:16, said:

There are a lot of disillusioned Rangers fans at the moment,many of whom wont take up their season tickets next season for a number of reasons. One being the lack of information of the plan of intent as to the running of the club from Whyte. If he has borrowed a specific amount against the forecast of ST money levels and that forecast isn't met by sales then effectively he has driven the club into further debt if payment of this loan isn't sustained. If we've got a shortfall on the forecast then that will affect the ability to pay.

That being the case he is more than likely taking the club into administration,which has probably been his aim since taking up his tenure. Far be it for many Rangers fans having their head in the sand,many have their eyes wide open as to the route Whyte is taking the club down. If it was a three or four year option on the ST at preferential discounts then fair enough that this money is borrowed against those figures but as it seems it's on a ST sales forecast over a period then Whyte is looking at administration for the club.

Wish more of your fellow OF fans could post in such a manner on such an important issue to both sides.

[The Taxman]

youngsy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:16, said:

then Whyte is looking at administration for the club.

Ahhhhhh....

The sudden dawning realisation that it's all going tits up.

Remember EVERY single rangers fan said this was utter shite made up nonsense by those pesky caffoliks....

Well GIRFUY....you were warned.

[KnightswoodBear]

youngsy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:16, said:

There are a lot of disillusioned Rangers fans at the moment,many of whom wont take up their season tickets next season for a number of reasons. One being the lack of information of the plan of intent as to the running of the club from Whyte. If he has borrowed a specific amount against the forecast of ST money levels and that forecast isn't met by sales then effectively he has driven the club into further debt if payment of this loan isn't sustained. If we've got a shortfall on the forecast then that will affect the ability to pay.

That being the case he is more than likely taking the club into administration,which has probably been his aim since taking up his tenure. Far be it for many Rangers fans having their head in the sand,many have their eyes wide open as to the route Whyte is taking the club down. If it was a three or four year option on the ST at preferential discounts then fair enough that this money is borrowed against those figures but as it seems it's on a ST sales forecast over a period then Whyte is looking at administration for the club.

I decided early on this season that this was my last as a ST holder. Priorities in life change and the treatment of the fans by the club a deciding factor, but the last few weeks have drove out any niggling doubts I have about stumping up my £500 next season.

What's going to happen now is the club and the more blinkered fans are going to launch an offensive to get folk to sign up again next year with cries of "the club needs you". I'm afraid to say that one Bear won't be signing on. I'll be picking and choosing the games I go to on my own terms.

[Tim Malloy]

youngsy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:16, said:

There are a lot of disillusioned Rangers fans at the moment,many of whom wont take up their season tickets next season for a number of reasons. One being the lack of information of the plan of intent as to the running of the club from Whyte. If he has borrowed a specific amount against the forecast of ST money levels and that forecast isn't met by sales then effectively he has driven the club into further debt if payment of this loan isn't sustained. If we've got a shortfall on the forecast then that will affect the ability to pay.

That being the case he is more than likely taking the club into administration,which has probably been his aim since taking up his tenure. Far be it for many Rangers fans having their head in the sand,many have their eyes wide open as to the route Whyte is taking the club down. If it was a three or four year option on the ST at preferential discounts then fair enough that this money is borrowed against those figures but as it seems it's on a ST sales forecast over a period then Whyte is looking at administration for the club.

Are you still in the "wait and see" camp?

[The Taxman]

KnightswoodBear, on 31 January 2012 - 10:27, said:

I decided early on this season that this was my last as a ST holder. Priorities in life change and the treatment of the fans by the club a deciding factor, but the last few weeks have drove out any niggling doubts I have about stumping up my £500 next season.

What's going to happen now is the club and the more blinkered fans are going to launch an offensive to get folk to sign up again next year with cries of "the club needs you". I'm afraid to say that one Bear won't be signing on. I'll be picking and choosing the games I go to on my own terms.

insert ratsinkingship.gif

[ayrmad]

As unpalatable as it is to some, I think the Rangers fans should be getting a consortium in place to buy Rangers post admin, then force them into admin by refusing to buy STs', why let someone like Whyte come out the other end with a £5m/£10m wedge of Rangers cash for doing virtually nothing.

[Tim Malloy]

Mason Boyne, on 31 January 2012 - 09:56, said:

Administration beckons today .

RangersTaxCase.com alleging a police presence has been requested for Ibrox tomorrow.

We have no reason to disbelieve this as the blog has been bang on in everything else that's been written.

[youngsy]

Tim Malloy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:29, said:

Are you still in the "wait and see" camp?

As there is very little i personally can do,apart from not taking my ST,which i only use about 8-10 times a season or thereabouts due to where i live and commitments to my non-league club,then i will wait and see with interest as to how this goes. I will still purchase the ST though as my nephew uses it when i don't.

[The Taxman]

youngsy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:44, said:

As there is very little i personally can do,apart from not taking my ST,which i only use about 8-10 times a season or thereabouts due to where i live and commitments to my non-league club,then i will wait and see with interest as to how this goes. I will still purchase the ST though as my nephew uses it when i don't.

Deffo "wait and see" then

[Drooper]

Tim Malloy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:33, said:

RangersTaxCase.com alleging a police presence has been requested for Ibrox tomorrow.

We have no reason to disbelieve this as the blog has been bang on in everything else that's been written.

Requested by whom?

And who will be paying for it? Unless, of course, Whyte has devised a clever scheme to charge those arriving with their dancing shoes for a berth. I'll be paying in smiles.

[Mason Boyne]

Tim Malloy, on 31 January 2012 - 10:33, said:

RangersTaxCase.com alleging a police presence has been requested for Ibrox tomorrow.

We have no reason to disbelieve this as the blog has been bang on in everything else that's been written.

Think my info is pretty good , today or tomorrow

[Tim Malloy]

Drooper, on 31 January 2012 - 10:45, said:

Requested by whom?

And who will be paying for it? Unless, of course, Whyte has devised a clever scheme to charge those arriving with their dancing shoes for a berth. I'll be paying in smiles.

By Rangers.

This post has been edited by Tim Malloy: 31 January 2012 - 10:47

[Tim Malloy]

Mason Boyne, on 31 January 2012 - 10:46, said:

Think my info is pretty good , today or tomorrow

By the time the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted on the paperwork.Wednesday would seem likely. Administration OR liquidation seems to be the only arguing point.

[geo1234]

ayrmad, on 31 January 2012 - 09:56, said:

Not looking for any dramatics.

Time for the Rangers fans to wake up, this guy is no good for Rangers.

How much has he actually put in of his own money for such a big club?

one golden nugget I believe

[phanni tikklar]

Haha i'm liking whytes work. But the real question i want to know is, who did he borrow the £1 from to buy the club???

[No8.]

After supporting Rangers Football Club for 43 years i can not remember feeling so disillusioned as i do this morning. Selling Jelavic on the last day of the window was probably always going to happen and i was kind of resigned to that. Whoever we bring in will be a cheap replacement who will be well short of the standard we need to maintain any kind of challenge.

The news Whyte has borrowed against season ticket money for the next 3 years is just yet another kick in the teeth for those who support the club. Administration is obviosly where we are headed and tbh it looks like it was always his plan A..not plan D as he claimed. His biggest claim since taking over was resigning our 'Top' players on long term deals...Then he says he needs to cut the wage bill..I cant see Steve Davis being there at the start of next season..McGregor and Whittaker will go if any club puts in a decent offer.

Supporters could have stomached this if he had been upfront. We all know where the blame lies for the tax case..we all know if we lose that case then there was going to be a long hard road to get to where we were but we would have supported him..we would have continued to support the club and most certainly continued to support the team on the park no matter who they were. I fear now he has lost the trust of many in the support. I honestly dread to think what the crowds will be like next season.

The ban on certain journalists was done for all the wrong reasons. Surely he must have realised that he would be thrown into the media spotlight when he took control of The Rangers? Surely he realised they would look into his past business dealings and unearth what they did..At the end of the day that programme implied quite a lot but said very little and there was NO WAY they were ever going to lose a libel case. He was left looking rather silly and the continued ban and ill feeling between the club and the BBC is far more harmful to us than it is to them.

I will renew my season ticket. I will always support the club. I will always support the team as i am a Rangers supporter and no matter what level we fall to i will always be there. If others like Knightswood choose to take a different route then so be it and good luck to them. I know it does not make them any less a supporter. That said my support/trust for the owner is gone...i have had enough even after such a short time. Whatever happened or did not happen in the past should not have led to the name of our club being dragged into the gutter in this way.

Whyte and Murray seem to have 1 thing in common...When things are going well they are right there in the front row. Unfurling league flags...Thanking great players for their service to the club etc. When things are going badly their silence is deafening. In this case we certainly do deserve better

[ayrmad]

geo1234, on 31 January 2012 - 11:04, said:

one golden nugget I believe

Bet we've all dropped more running for the bus!

I'd be raging if a chancer were to profit millions out of my club.

[ayrmad]

No8., on 31 January 2012 - 11:09, said:

After supporting Rangers Football Club for 43 years i can not remember feeling so disillusioned as i do this morning. Selling Jelavic on the last day of the window was probably always going to happen and i was kind of resigned to that. Whoever we bring in will be a cheap replacement who will be well short of the standard we need to maintain any kind of challenge.

The news Whyte has borrowed against season ticket money for the next 3 years is just yet another kick in the teeth for those who support the club. Administration is obviosly where we are headed and tbh it looks like it was always his plan A..not plan D as he claimed. His biggest claim since taking over was resigning our 'Top' players on long term deals...Then he says he needs to cut the wage bill..I cant see Steve Davis being there at the start of next season..McGregor and Whittaker will go if any club puts in a decent offer.

Supporters could have stomached this if he had been upfront. We all know where the blame lies for the tax case..we all know if we lose that case then there was going to be a long hard road to get to where we were but we would have supported him..we would have continued to support the club and most certainly continued to support the team on the park no matter who they were. I fear now he has lost the trust of many in the support. I honestly dread to think what the crowds will be like next season.

The ban on certain journalists was done for all the wrong reasons. Surely he must have realised that he would be thrown into the media spotlight when he took control of The Rangers? Surely he realised they would look into his past business dealings and unearth what they did..At the end of the day that programme implied quite a lot but said very little and there was NO WAY they were ever going to lose a libel case. He was left looking rather silly and the continued ban and ill feeling between the club and the BBC is far more harmful to us than it is to them.

I will renew my season ticket. I will always support the club. I will always support the team as i am a Rangers supporter and no matter what level we fall to i will always be there. If others like Knightswood choose to take a different route then so be it and good luck to them. I know it does not make them any less a supporter. That said my support/trust for the owner is gone...i have had enough even after such a short time. Whatever happened or did not happen in the past should not have led to the name of our club being dragged into the gutter in this way.

Whyte and Murray seem to have 1 thing in common...When things are going well they are right there in the front row. Unfurling league flags...Thanking great players for their service to the club etc. When things are going badly their silence is deafening. In this case we certainly do deserve better

Would you not prefer a boycott on STs' if a consortium of fans were waiting in the wings to pick up the pieces rather than allow this character to swan of with lots of Rangers lolly at some point in the future?

This post has been edited by ayrmad: 31 January 2012 - 12:48

[No8.]

Mason Boyne, on 31 January 2012 - 10:46, said:

Think my info is pretty good , today or tomorrow

Rangers have not paid for the new sound system and the company that installed it are threatening to take it out. From what i have been told Wyte is simply refusing to pay any bills to outside contractors..Administration it is...This might be how he works in the business world, by playing the system, but i expect better from Rangers Football Club!!!

[The Taxman]

No8., on 31 January 2012 - 11:09, said:

After supporting Rangers Football Club for 43 years i can not remember feeling so disillusioned as i do this morning. Selling Jelavic on the last day of the window was probably always going to happen and i was kind of resigned to that. Whoever we bring in will be a cheap replacement who will be well short of the standard we need to maintain any kind of challenge.

The news Whyte has borrowed against season ticket money for the next 3 years is just yet another kick in the teeth for those who support the club. Administration is obviosly where we are headed and tbh it looks like it was always his plan A..not plan D as he claimed. His biggest claim since taking over was resigning our 'Top' players on long term deals...Then he says he needs to cut the wage bill..I cant see Steve Davis being there at the start of next season..McGregor and Whittaker will go if any club puts in a decent offer.

Supporters could have stomached this if he had been upfront. We all know where the blame lies for the tax case..we all know if we lose that case then there was going to be a long hard road to get to where we were but we would have supported him..we would have continued to support the club and most certainly continued to support the team on the park no matter who they were. I fear now he has lost the trust of many in the support. I honestly dread to think what the crowds will be like next season.

The ban on certain journalists was done for all the wrong reasons. Surely he must have realised that he would be thrown into the media spotlight when he took control of The Rangers? Surely he realised they would look into his past business dealings and unearth what they did..At the end of the day that programme implied quite a lot but said very little and there was NO WAY they were ever going to lose a libel case. He was left looking rather silly and the continued ban and ill feeling between the club and the BBC is far more harmful to us than it is to them.

I will renew my season ticket. I will always support the club. I will always support the team as i am a Rangers supporter and no matter what level we fall to i will always be there. If others like Knightswood choose to take a different route then so be it and good luck to them. I know it does not make them any less a supporter. That said my support/trust for the owner is gone...i have had enough even after such a short time. Whatever happened or did not happen in the past should not have led to the name of our club being dragged into the gutter in this way.

Whyte and Murray seem to have 1 thing in common...When things are going well they are right there in the front row. Unfurling league flags...Thanking great players for their service to the club etc. When things are going badly their silence is deafening. In this case we certainly do deserve better

But it's all made up shite, you told everyone that. You tried to convince eryone on here that there was some kind of conspiracy against your club. And to top it all you cave us the legendary "men at work" thread....you sir are a fucking idiot.

Ha Ha

[Tim Malloy]

No8., on 31 January 2012 - 11:09, said:

After supporting Rangers Football Club for 43 years i can not remember feeling so disillusioned as i do this morning. Selling Jelavic on the last day of the window was probably always going to happen and i was kind of resigned to that. Whoever we bring in will be a cheap replacement who will be well short of the standard we need to maintain any kind of challenge.

The news Whyte has borrowed against season ticket money for the next 3 years is just yet another kick in the teeth for those who support the club. Administration is obviosly where we are headed and tbh it looks like it was always his plan A..not plan D as he claimed. His biggest claim since taking over was resigning our 'Top' players on long term deals...Then he says he needs to cut the wage bill..I cant see Steve Davis being there at the start of next season..McGregor and Whittaker will go if any club puts in a decent offer.

Supporters could have stomached this if he had been upfront. We all know where the blame lies for the tax case..we all know if we lose that case then there was going to be a long hard road to get to where we were but we would have supported him..we would have continued to support the club and most certainly continued to support the team on the park no matter who they were. I fear now he has lost the trust of many in the support. I honestly dread to think what the crowds will be like next season.

The ban on certain journalists was done for all the wrong reasons. Surely he must have realised that he would be thrown into the media spotlight when he took control of The Rangers? Surely he realised they would look into his past business dealings and unearth what they did..At the end of the day that programme implied quite a lot but said very little and there was NO WAY they were ever going to lose a libel case. He was left looking rather silly and the continued ban and ill feeling between the club and the BBC is far more harmful to us than it is to them.

I will renew my season ticket. I will always support the club. I will always support the team as i am a Rangers supporter and no matter what level we fall to i will always be there. If others like Knightswood choose to take a different route then so be it and good luck to them. I know it does not make them any less a supporter. That said my support/trust for the owner is gone...i have had enough even after such a short time. Whatever happened or did not happen in the past should not have led to the name of our club being dragged into the gutter in this way.

Whyte and Murray seem to have 1 thing in common...When things are going well they are right there in the front row. Unfurling league flags...Thanking great players for their service to the club etc. When things are going badly their silence is deafening. In this case we certainly do deserve better

ffs! I haven't felt this emotional since yon fella died in "The Champ"