[itzdrk]

Ok so. ayr players meet three times a week twich for an hour and a half training and once for a match, usually with part time teams this shpuld be the norm, however unlike other part time teams our manager is full time, why CANT/DONT we meet every night for training , i cant imagine there is anything stopping us getting most of the team together most nights?

[Aufc]

itzdrk, on 30 January 2012 - 15:29, said:

Ok so. ayr players meet three times a week twich for an hour and a half training and once for a match, usually with part time teams this shpuld be the norm, however unlike other part time teams our manager is full time, why CANT/DONT we meet every night for training , i cant imagine there is anything stopping us getting most of the team together most nights?

Surely you would have to pay more?

[SpoonTon]

My impression is that Morton, despite being full-time, only do 3 or 4 days training sessions a week (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, light session Friday), could be wrong though.

Maybe that's why we've concede so many goals from cross balls and set-pieces

This post has been edited by SpoonTon: 30 January 2012 - 16:04

[Gareth]

itzdrk, on 30 January 2012 - 15:29, said:

Ok so. ayr players meet three times a week twich for an hour and a half training and once for a match, usually with part time teams this shpuld be the norm, however unlike other part time teams our manager is full time, why CANT/DONT we meet every night for training , i cant imagine there is anything stopping us getting most of the team together most nights?

I was thinking about this.
I'd imagine it comes down to work commitments but also the commitment of the players themselves. Training every week night (or even 4 out of the 5) would surely help but effectively halves their hourly rate. Also take into account travelling and that's maybe why it's limited to two nights.
All the more reason to get as many local youngsters from the academy into our squad. They'd be more keen to commit to more training sessions from a personal development angle as well as the team development.

In short - the lower leagues of Scottish football is full of mercenaries.

[itzdrk]

Aufc, on 30 January 2012 - 15:34, said:

Surely you would have to pay more?

If it was at night theyd still have their other jobs so i cant see us having to pay more and if we do the amount wouldnt be much more

[Gareth]

itzdrk, on 30 January 2012 - 15:42, said:

If it was at night theyd still have their other jobs so i cant see us having to pay more and if we do the amount wouldnt be much more

Offering travel expenses should cover it surely?

[itzdrk]

Thats how i see it, calvins money if. used on that would possibly be better

[Aufc]

itzdrk, on 30 January 2012 - 15:42, said:

If it was at night theyd still have their other jobs so i cant see us having to pay more and if we do the amount wouldnt be much more

But then they are effectively giving up more of their time. They have lives outside of football so can't really see them wanting to work 9-5 every day and then go to training every night, especially if they are getting paid the same amount of money.

[staggy4life]

I know County train Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. Two of those days are double sessions and Wednesday is a day off.

[The big chair]

Part-time training requires full-time commitment as it is, without expecting the players to give up even more of their free time for no reward. If you're working 40 hrs + a week, have a wife and bairns and are already training with the team twice a week, going out running, going to the gym, watching your diet and what what you drink, then you've already made a full-time commitment.

[Kitty_Boy]

The big chair, on 30 January 2012 - 16:04, said:

Part-time training requires full-time commitment as it is, without expecting the players to give up even more of their free time for no reward. If you're working 40 hrs + a week, have a wife and bairns and are already training with the team twice a week, going out running, going to the gym, watching your diet and what what you drink, then you've already made a full-time commitment.

Barely time left to fit a kitchen.

[Skyline Drifter]

itzdrk, on 30 January 2012 - 15:42, said:

If it was at night theyd still have their other jobs so i cant see us having to pay more and if we do the amount wouldnt be much more

Ever heard of the minimum wage legislation?

[Cliche Guevara]

Skyline Drifter, on 30 January 2012 - 16:15, said:

Ever heard of the minimum wage legislation?

Dreadful comparison

[ayrmad]

If someone paid me £x to be part time I'd be training part time unless I was paid £x +£y, these guys are no different from us.

I would be shocked if Barca do more than 7 hours fitness training per week(not including weights in that statement).

Do Ayr manage 2 45 minute sessions of high intensity high tempo training per week? Doubt it, probably 2 45 minute sessions of middle of the road tempo and intensity followed by a kickabout, one reason Marko might not be the man to takeover the reigns anytime soon.

[The big chair]

Kitty_Boy, on 30 January 2012 - 16:15, said:

Barely time left to fit a kitchen.

Exactly. Unless their full-time job is kitchen fitter.

[aidan-bufc]

What does the manager do on the days that players don't train?

[ayrmad]

aidan-bufc, on 30 January 2012 - 16:45, said:

What does the manager do on the days that players don't train?

He has a mirror.

[yoda]

aidan-bufc, on 30 January 2012 - 16:45, said:

What does the manager do on the days that players don't train?

Watches repeats of Gilmore Girls. It's what we all do, isn't it?

[The big chair]

aidan-bufc, on 30 January 2012 - 16:45, said:

What does the manager do on the days that players don't train?

I believe Brian Reid parks buses for stagecoach.

[aidan-bufc]

yoda, on 30 January 2012 - 16:48, said:

Watches repeats of Gilmore Girls. It's what we all do, isn't it?

Well I know I do

[scotty 2 hotty]

SpoonTon, on 30 January 2012 - 15:35, said:

My impression is that Morton, despite being full-time, only do 3 or 4 days training sessions a week (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, light session Friday), could be wrong though.

Maybe that's why we've concede so many goals from cross balls and set-pieces

I get the same impression with our mob. Bobby Barr's always on Twitter posting about how much he loves Gary Bollan after he's given the squad another day off from training.

[Kitty_Boy]

aidan-bufc, on 30 January 2012 - 16:45, said:

What does the manager do on the days that players don't train?

Our U19s and U17s are 'full time' (YTS or equivalent).

Brian Reid stands on the touchline telling them they're not good enough.

[Cliche Guevara]

The big chair, on 30 January 2012 - 16:42, said:

Exactly. Unless their full-time job is kitchen fitter.

No, I think you've messed up his joke.

To me the implication was their full-time job is a kitchen fitter and there is barely any time left to do that.

So either you have messed that up or I have messed this up.

[The big chair]

Cliche Guevara, on 30 January 2012 - 17:00, said:

No, I think you've messed up his joke.

To me the implication was their full-time job is a kitchen fitter and there is barely any time left to do that.

So either you have messed that up or I have messed this up.

I thought it was a dig about Kenny Shiels comparing Cammy Bell fitting a kitchen last week to Ayr players working.

[Cliche Guevara]

Yeah probably was then.

Didn't see that comment - it's all about context!