[ffcsam]

It seems Jose will leave Real Madrid at the end of the season. I am sure there will be plenty of clubs interested in taking him on for next season .
Arsenal? . Would they take him?
Man City? Should Mancini fail to win the Premiership
Spurs? If Harry goes to be bed-pals with Norman Stanley Fletcher

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Thoughts?

[Swarley]

ffcsam, on 29 January 2012 - 08:29, said:

Arsenal? . Would they take him?

Yes, I think they would and I think he'd enjoy the challenge there.

ffcsam, on 29 January 2012 - 08:29, said:

Man City? Should Mancini fail to win the Premiership

The Premiership is Citeh's to lose. Yinited are their only challengers and they look pretty poor (when compared to previous Utd teams) at the moment. I think the Mourinho carrot might be too tempting for the Citeh owners to ignore though and they'll punt Mancini and get Mourinho.

ffcsam, on 29 January 2012 - 08:29, said:

Spurs? If Harry goes to be bed-pals with Norman Stanley Fletcher

Didn't Fletch "go straight"?

[wunfellaff]

How about SAF retires and he lands up there? With the City being up there now, I could see the rivalry tempting Jose...

[Swarley]

wunfellaff, on 29 January 2012 - 09:09, said:

How about SAF retires and he lands up there? With the City being up there now, I could see the rivalry tempting Jose...

Retire? Nah, they'll have to carry SAF out of Old Trafford in a box.

[kevyandreen]

Liverpool

[fueradejuego]

You take Mourinho and you have to accept it is all about him.

When he joined Madrid he was asked about winning La Liga. He replied it would mean he was the first manager to win the domestic title in four different countries. No mention of ending Barca's dominance.

He was then asked about winning the Champions League and he replied that he would be the first manager to win it with three different clubs. The interviewer then pointed out that if Madrid won the CL, it would be their 10th title. Mourinho quickly backtracked.

He has been criticsed heavily in Madrid for his tactics and style of play.

He is very much a short term solution. He does not build for the future and he does not deliver entertaining football.

He may leave clubs a legend but he leaves no legacy. Just a squad with a number of aging players due to his transfer policy e.g. Chelsea and Inter. He has addressed this somewhat at Madrid with the signings of Khedira and Ozil amongst others.

[Big River]

Arsenal and Madrid to swap managers is my prediction, unless Mancini doesn't win the league in which case I think he will be punted and they will bring in Mourinho.

[Paulo Sergio]

Stick on for the Man City job if they don't win the Premiership, that's for sure.

[pub car king]

Back to Chelsea?

[Steve McQueen]

Paulo Sergio, on 29 January 2012 - 14:54, said:

Stick on for the Man City job if they don't win the Premiership, that's for sure.

Or even if they do. Mancini's European record is shocking both at Inter & City

[HEED]

Would Arsenal give him the money he would request for transfers though.

I can only see it being between the two Manchester clubs and it will all depend on the outcome of the PL this season, City win Mourinho to United, United win, Mourinho will be at City.

[Dazzle]

Not a chance he will be at United next year. Unless SAF dies before August. I think reguardless of where City finish in the league, Mancini will be punted if Mourinho would take the job.

[Deeboy]

Dazzle, on 29 January 2012 - 16:54, said:

Not a chance he will be at United next year. Unless SAF dies before August. I think reguardless of where City finish in the league, Mancini will be punted if Mourinho would take the job.

Pretty much this, I think Ferguson will get some say in who replaces him. Not a chance he would consider Mourinho's name.

[vikingTON]

Deeboy, on 29 January 2012 - 17:29, said:

Pretty much this, I think Ferguson will get some say in who replaces him. Not a chance he would consider Mourinho's name.

Based on what exactly? I don't recall tham having any major clashes when Mourinho was at Chelsea, compared to say, Benitez and Mourinho.

This post has been edited by vikingTON: 29 January 2012 - 18:09

[Cammy35]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Mourinho has to pay Real Madrid if he wants to leave before his contract is up and it was a huge sum of money something like £10million. I know hes rich but if that is true he will be inclined to see out his contract I would have thought.

[LinkinFighter]

Cammy35, on 29 January 2012 - 18:14, said:

I'm sure I read somewhere that Mourinho has to pay Real Madrid if he wants to leave before his contract is up and it was a huge sum of money something like £10million. I know hes rich but if that is true he will be inclined to see out his contract I would have thought.

He''ll annoy them in some way and they will punt him

[Diamonds are Forever]

fueradejuego, on 29 January 2012 - 14:07, said:

You take Mourinho and you have to accept it is all about him.

When he joined Madrid he was asked about winning La Liga. He replied it would mean he was the first manager to win the domestic title in four different countries. No mention of ending Barca's dominance.

He was then asked about winning the Champions League and he replied that he would be the first manager to win it with three different clubs. The interviewer then pointed out that if Madrid won the CL, it would be their 10th title. Mourinho quickly backtracked.

He has been criticsed heavily in Madrid for his tactics and style of play.

He is very much a short term solution. He does not build for the future and he does not deliver entertaining football.

He may leave clubs a legend but he leaves no legacy. Just a squad with a number of aging players due to his transfer policy e.g. Chelsea and Inter. He has addressed this somewhat at Madrid with the signings of Khedira and Ozil amongst others.

This is often said of Mourinho, and while it is true that he hasn't exactly built for the future at his clubs so far, I think that is largely down to the clubs he has joined and the time at which he joined them. He came to Chelsea with a barrel load of cash and was told to win the league immediately, there was no time to build a squad for the future. He went to Inter and again was expected to carry on their success and win the league straight away, and Madrid are hardly known for being patient with managers. At any of those clubs if he had sacrificed short term success so that he could build a long term legacy he would have been punted before he ever built anything. His career has been based on short-termism because that is what the clubs that have employed him have requested. To be honest that is the way almost all managers work now because of the way football has gone, you've got 18 months max to do something or you're out the door. I'd like to see him take on a 'project' such as Arsenal and see how he would do trying to build a team over a few years.

[fueradejuego]

Diamonds are Forever, on 29 January 2012 - 19:47, said:

This is often said of Mourinho, and while it is true that he hasn't exactly built for the future at his clubs so far, I think that is largely down to the clubs he has joined and the time at which he joined them. He came to Chelsea with a barrel load of cash and was told to win the league immediately, there was no time to build a squad for the future. He went to Inter and again was expected to carry on their success and win the league straight away, and Madrid are hardly known for being patient with managers. At any of those clubs if he had sacrificed short term success so that he could build a long term legacy he would have been punted before he ever built anything. His career has been based on short-termism because that is what the clubs that have employed him have requested. To be honest that is the way almost all managers work now because of the way football has gone, you've got 18 months max to do something or you're out the door. I'd like to see him take on a 'project' such as Arsenal and see how he would do trying to build a team over a few years.

Its about striking a balance.

At either Inter or Chelsea, Mourinho could have bought younger players also but its a tried and tested formula for him to purchase players at their peak e.g. 27, 28 or 29. You buy players at this age, give them a 3 or 4 year contract and a large salary and you have a problem awaiting you. You will struggle to shift the players as others will not pay the wages they presently receive and you will get little resale value on them.

He could have adopted a balanced strategy buy I don't think he buys into the idea of building a team and a club the way Ferguson has at Man Utd. I agree that few clubs give maangers time but he has a track record of success so he should, in theory, be in a stronger bargaining position with Chairman / Presidents etc. Give me 5 years and I will build you a great team.

I think he more or less follows the view of the great Bela Guttman - the 4th season is fatal

He aims to arrive, win and then bugger off. Its all about him and not about the club.

If you accept that, then he is your man. If you want something more akin to what Ferguson and Wenger have created then, avoid him. Its for this reason that I don't think he would go to Arsenal or Man Utd but a Man City would probably interest him greatly.

He has addressed this issue at Madrid and he also has more power than any other manager in the history of Madrid. He essentially gave Perez an ultimatum at the start of the season - Jorge Valdano or me. Perez backed Mourinho and binned Valdano and he has been heavily backed in the transfer market too so he is maybe changing his outlook slightly.

I also think his methods prevent him building a team over a few seasons etc. He has a very intensive and demanding training and game style which is known to drain the players physically and mentally after a couple of years. It is arguably why the Chelsea and Inter players could not reach the same heights after he left (I appreciate that his supporters would say he was the reason performances dipped and an element of that will be true of course. I just think his methods do have a negative physical effect on players after a couple of seasons).

[Michael W]

ffcsam, on 29 January 2012 - 08:29, said:

It seems Jose will leave Real Madrid at the end of the season. I am sure there will be plenty of clubs interested in taking him on for next season .
Arsenal? . Would they take him?

It would be absolutely hilarious watching his attempts to turn a pansy like Walcott into a cynical, thuggish player.

I think he fancies the Man Utd job after Ferguson finally calls it a day. It's all about the ego where Mourinho's concerned, and the chance to succeed a legendary figure like Ferguson is something that would no doubt be right up his street.

This post has been edited by Michael W: 29 January 2012 - 23:25

[DJP]

ffcsam, on 29 January 2012 - 08:29, said:

It seems Jose will leave Real Madrid at the end of the season. I am sure there will be plenty of clubs interested in taking him on for next season .
Arsenal? . Would they take him?
Man City? Should Mancini fail to win the Premiership
Spurs? If Harry goes to be bed-pals with Norman Stanley Fletcher

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Thoughts?

Seems to me, Sky are just desperate to generate some news due to lack of transfer activity at the top end of the English transfer market.

This post has been edited by DJP: 29 January 2012 - 23:46

[fueradejuego]

DJP, on 29 January 2012 - 23:45, said:

Seems to me, Sky are just desperate to generate some news due to lack of transfer activity at the top end of the English transfer market.

There have been stories in Spanish press over last couple of weeks about him leaving. Its not a Sky story as such.

Story appears to have emerged via a source who spoke to the Sunday Times.

Again, bear in mind that Mourinho has his own PR man who deals with the media on his behalf. He criticises refs, opponents etc in Spain via his PR man.

Mourinho is testing the waters to see if he gets any bites from the Premiership. If he gets nothing, he will endeavour to stay at Madrid although without some success that decision will nit be his. If he gets any interest, success or not, I think he will go.

[green and white]

spurs
one of the manc teams
chelsea

all small clubs apart from united

[ShakehandsTom - DFC]

I would reckon that the only teams who would realistically have a shot at landing Mourinho if/when he leaves Madrid would be a title-challenging club. I.e. Man Utd, Man City, or (as unlikely as I imagine it would be), a return to Chelsea.

[forameus]

ShakehandsTom - DFC, on 30 January 2012 - 08:16, said:

I would reckon that the only teams who would realistically have a shot at landing Mourinho if/when he leaves Madrid would be a title-challenging club. I.e. Man Utd, Man City, or (as unlikely as I imagine it would be), a return to Chelsea.

Got to agree, but I actually think he could do a good job at a smaller club. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell of him doing that, but he does very well setting up a team that is hard to beat, like he did at Inter when they toppled Barcelona. A team pushing for the Europa League with a decent financial backing would probably be a perfect fit, but he will want a glamour side.

City would probably be his best fit - they don't have as much of a football identity in the way an Arsenal or a Man Utd do. He could conceivably go in and tear things up, be given a massive financial backing and then build a new club in his image for success. I don't think he would get away with that as much at Arsenal - wouldn't be backed financially - and Man Utd.

[Deeboy]

vikingTON, on 29 January 2012 - 18:09, said:

Based on what exactly? I don't recall tham having any major clashes when Mourinho was at Chelsea, compared to say, Benitez and Mourinho.

The style in which his teams play for a start.