[THE SPORTSMAN]

Have we still got an EAST OF SCOTLAND Select side as i am led to beleive WILLIE DARROCK has alot of personal problems and hope everything ok great lad but has WILLIE decided to take time out or just cant give enough of his ttime

[only an opinion]

Do we really need one as it creates more hassle than it is worth. What are the benefits?

[mickles 1981]

only an opinion, on 26 January 2012 - 19:53, said:

Do we really need one as it creates more hassle than it is worth. What are the benefits?

Fair point. Agree.

The benefit is to highlight the EOS to a wider audience.

But the fall outs/grief/ accusations of bias, that results in terms of selection...

[HibeeJibee]

Willie Darroch resigned in September:

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http://www.pieandbov...ost__p__5606716

Select Team Manager
Willie Darroch has regrettably resigned for personal reasons. League Chairman Tom Allison expressed his appreciation of Willie's work with the team.

Anyone interested in applying for the vacancy should contact the League Secretary, John Greenhorn.

I think there can be benefits from a Select team. It enhances the profile and exposure of the league; it could act as an incentive for players to go EOS; it can act as an incentive for players to 'be the best they can', whilst also rewarding the achievement of high standards; it can provide an opportunity for young players to showcase themselves to SFL clubs; formerly, it fed Scotland Semi-Pro.

So the benefits could include... league profile and awareness, player development, player encouragement/recognition, and inter-organisation relations.


Problem nowadays is the cramped calendar at club level, and a decline in equivalent opponents.

Games against the like of England C are certainly attractive... but playing SFL club sides lacks the lustre, whilst former select opponents like the Highland League have now mothballed their XIs. Other former stalwarts like the Scottish Universities and Scottish Amateurs have far more constrained programmes than previously. And SFA abolished Scotland Semi-Pro.


Personally, I think there's definetely still a place for occasional games versus other representative teams, and perhaps v clubs as warm-ups for those fixtures.

However, the Select hasn't played since facing England C in May 2010... attempts to play Livingston in autumn 2010 and 2011 got washed-out ... and maybe it can only wait for so long until it becomes redundant.

[THE SPORTSMAN]

only an opinion, on 26 January 2012 - 19:53, said:

Do we really need one as it creates more hassle than it is worth. What are the benefits?

IS THAT WHAT FOOTBALL AT ANY LEVEL IS ABOUT SHOULD WE DO AWAY WITH OUR NATIONAL SIDE IS IT NOT A GREAT ADVERT FOR THE LEAGUE AND PUTS SOME PLAYERS IN THE SHOP WINDOW TO MOVE TO SENIOR LEVEL

[only an opinion]

Fair Points. Hibee Jibee for Manager. Oh and good luck with ur squad selection.

[HibeeJibee]

Squad selection is always the big debate but of course one big job of a select coach is to go about watching clubs and players. I've always wondered if a Lothians v Rest game could assist in that too.

[voice of reason 2]

18 man squad
Gk/s
Dodds .... Selkirk
Swain... Lothian

Defenders
Hoskins
Sivewright
Mackinnon.... All spartans
Robertson... Stirling uni
Harrison... Edin city

Midfield

Kader
Dodds
Manson..... All spartans
Dickson,.. Civil
Simpson... Eyemouth
Mcfarland.... Edin city
Stevens ..... Leith ath

Forwards
Mcleod.... Spartans
Geddes ..... Stirling
Gormley..... Civil
Macintosh,..... Whitehill

This post has been edited by voice of reason 2: 26 January 2012 - 21:24

[THE REAL DEAL]

I would agree with most of your selection but who are simpson and stevens?
I would find a spot for conan and craig stewart from lothian/hutchie

[Grim O'Grady]

It's redundant, HJ is right,

It's not a window display anymore because no one is interested! Don't want to rake over old shit but the England C game killed it.

The pyramid is the way forward, real competition will be a true window for any of our EoS lads!

Grim

[HibeeJibee]

England has a pyramid system, and they have representative football at all levels... a National League System Cup for league selects below Step 6 (with its winner entering the UEFA Regions Cup); in the levels above various ad-hoc regional challenges; the England C team at Conference level; even the Football League runs an irregular U23 select.

England C represented a great challenge and stage for the players.

As a concept, it can work, IMO.

[Grim O'Grady]

HibeeJibee, on 26 January 2012 - 22:25, said:

England has a pyramid system, and they have representative football at all levels... a National League System Cup for league selects below Step 6 (with its winner entering the UEFA Regions Cup); in the levels above various ad-hoc regional challenges; the England C team at Conference level; even the Football League runs an irregular U23 select.

England C represented a great challenge and stage for the players.

As a concept, it can work, IMO.

Once again I agree with you H/J,

When we get a pyramid then we can also go for ALL the other things too, well said!

Grim

[colinmc]

THE REAL DEAL, on 26 January 2012 - 21:56, said:

I would agree with most of your selection but who are simpson and stevens?
I would find a spot for conan and craig stewart from lothian/hutchie

Cheers THE REAL DEAL whoever u r ? Pm me and tell me.

[AllStars11]

Im suprised theres no Gretna fans piping up about how knowone has mentioned any of their players lol oh and Rob Pearson captain of Stirling would fit in to that band of select players i think

This post has been edited by AllStars11: 26 January 2012 - 23:41

[hasan sas]

THE REAL DEAL, on 26 January 2012 - 21:56, said:

I would agree with most of your selection but who are simpson and stevens?
I would find a spot for conan and craig stewart from lothian/hutchie

i would agree with craig stewart but conan is an absoloute bombscare at centre half ive seen him have 1 good game out of 5 this season, he has the chance to change that view as ill be attending lothian v gretna on saturday

[open mind]

Paget for the selection team manager.................................. ...................couldn't resist as he most know almost every player in both leagues by now and has some spare time on his hands.

[colinmc]

hasan sas, on 26 January 2012 - 23:58, said:

i would agree with craig stewart but conan is an absoloute bombscare at centre half ive seen him have 1 good game out of 5 this season, he has the chance to change that view as ill be attending lothian v gretna on saturday

Haha hope u come see me this time u keyboard gangster !! Don't stay at home picking ur large nose this time.

[scorer]

colinmc, on 27 January 2012 - 10:09, said:

Haha hope u come see me this time u keyboard gangster !! Don't stay at home picking ur large nose this time.

Conan,
Keyboard gangstar? is that Telephone Toughguys best mate

[hasan sas]

colinmc, on 27 January 2012 - 10:09, said:

Haha hope u come see me this time u keyboard gangster !! Don't stay at home picking ur large nose this time.

i shall be there if u look over to me i will give u a little wave, try and keep the score down tomorrow and prove me wrong!

[colinmc]

hasan sas, on 27 January 2012 - 17:03, said:

i shall be there if u look over to me i will give u a little wave, try and keep the score down tomorrow and prove me wrong!

So I have to look about and see some weirdo waving at me ! Why don't u come see me before or after the game !!
I'll try my best but it's a team game, no I in team but u know that of course

[hasan sas]

colinmc, on 27 January 2012 - 17:43, said:

So I have to look about and see some weirdo waving at me ! Why don't u come see me before or after the game !!
I'll try my best but it's a team game, no I in team but u know that of course

why would i want to reveal my identity wee man haha dont be so stupid long ball mcdiarmid

[colinmc]

hasan sas, on 27 January 2012 - 17:53, said:

why would i want to reveal my identity wee man haha dont be so stupid long ball mcdiarmid

U just gave it away, now I know ur a old teammate or still is, see u saturday

[Shogun2]

THE REAL DEAL, on 26 January 2012 - 21:56, said:

I would agree with most of your selection but who are simpson and stevens?
I would find a spot for conan and craig stewart from lothian/hutchie

Jonny Simpson ..... Ripping up defenders for arse paper.... Apart from today where he had an unusually off game