[Stuboy]

Gall09, on 25 January 2012 - 18:26, said:

Totally agree. Usually when i tell people i support Queen's Park, i'll get a "I really respect that" or "Good for you mate, that's a real fitba' fan." Sorry? I support them because they're my team. I'm no better than anybody else just cause it's a "wee team".



This really pisses me off too. Get it a lot at Hampden. In fact one of our players mentioned it on Twitter last week. We were 1-0 up against Elgin with 10 minutes to go till half-time and these arseholes started shouting to "get it up the fucking park!" after we had kept the ball for about 3 minutes. Irony is when we go direct and lose it these c***s go off their nut.

Another pet hate of mine is when the ball goes out for a throw-in or a corner and the linesman waits for the ref to pick what way it's going before raising his flag. What's the point of you being there?!

Totally agree. Another thing that does my tits in is linemen who let the ball roll by them even though they could simply stick their foot out to stop the ball rolling away.

[craigkillie]

The assistant and the referee will often communicate either via their microphone or even via eye contact to make sure they get a decision correct. That often means they both will signal at roughly the same time.

In addition to that, the referee will usually make the decisions on his diagonal, because he will almost always be closer. In that case, the assistant would only be signalling whether the ball was out if there was any doubt. He would sometimes flag a direction after the referee to reinforce the decision.

As for the assistants not stopping the ball - this is often because they are too busy concentrating on flagging (something which has happened to me in the past). They aren't really supposed to fetch the ball anyway - imagine the controversy if he stopped it and a player immediately picked it up and took a quick throw, catching out the opponents.

[NotThePars]

1. This is mainly from my time spent in the Northwest Stand at EEP but folk that lose the rag at every single offside decision given against their team. I don't mean occasionally grumbling "that was never offside ref" I mean the folk that stand up roaring for a good thirty-seconds and hurling abuse at the linesman who clearly got the decision correct every single time.

2. People that constantly criticize Scottish football and the standard whilst 'supporting' an English football team. Fair enough, I think the standard of football on offer in the EPL is much better but I still get a great deal of enjoyment out of buying a ticket and supporting a team on a fairly regular basis. There's a world of difference from watching a live football game in the flesh and watching the Sportscene highlights on a Sunday night. These people can't seriously say they've experienced the same highs and lows as someone that's watched their teams win promotion and lose cup finals.

3. The talk surrounding summer football and to a lesser extent goal line technology. It's amazing that pundits and sports writers that are paid good money to offer an informed opinion on the game come across as lacking whilst several posters on this site offer more coherent arguments on a regular basis. It's got to the stage where I regard anyone seriously advocating summer football as an idiot.

4. Supporters (usually of the more successful sides) that feel the need to start every point with "I've been a season ticket holder for x amount of years" as if that instantly gives their opinion some weight, well it doesn't and just because you've 'not missed a game in 20 years' doesn't mean that the current Man United/ Celtic/ Rangers side you're currently watching is the WORST you've ever seen.

5. The hatred surrounding teams that buy their way to success. I think it's great to see more and more teams get invested in and it adds some excitement to the game to see some unknown Russian side suddenly signing Samuel Eto'o and Malaga emerging as a possible future challenger to the big two. Manchester City have also made the Premiership much more entertaining with their signings of exciting players such as Balotelli and Aguero that wouldn't have been possible without some major foreign investment. Maybe this is partly because I wish a foreign oil baron would take pity on my team and sort out our financial mess.

[SodjesSixteenIncher]

IainMorton, on 26 January 2012 - 16:06, said:

Chelsea are my English team and I can't afford to go and watch them as I spend most of my money going to watch Morton - but I still buy and wear their shirts.

ETA I've seen a load of people wearing Man City shirts in the last 18 months or so, would they have been doing that 4/5 years ago? Probs not!

[LinkinFighter]

TheScarf, on 26 January 2012 - 09:34, said:

Scumling Lolbion.

Killfartnock was another gem from this site.

[Thistle_do_nicely]

TheScarf, on 26 January 2012 - 17:18, said:

They most certainly did. 1st Division St Mirren.

Fair enough. My apologies.

[chico]

Team GB
Football teams in the highlands.
St Mirren 1992-98
Davie Hay
St Johnstone
Gretna
Alan Main
9 men cup finals
ReidBall/GusBall
Shitfesting it
John Potter
Rugby Park
Sammy the Tammy
The old firm and their fans

[ShakehandsTom - DFC]

1 - The 'who do you really support?' response from Old Firm fans to you answering your 'small' team to their question as to who you support. "No mate, I really do support Dumbarton. And I hate both halves of the Old Firm." It's a response which strangely is lost on several OF 'supporters'.

2 - The whole attitude from fans (largely in the lower leagues, I find) about playing football 'the right way'. Whether we win, lose or draw, there are always people who complain that we were 'thumping the ball upfield' or 'didn't play good football'. For me, that takes a huge backseat to the result itself. I want us to win and if we need to 'play ugly' and 'hoof it' to do so, then it's fine by me, I couldn't care less if it's pleasing on the eye or not.

3 - The outrage from fans at deliberate fouls or cynical challenges (either involving your own team or just when watching a game on the tv). Whether it's my team, or a game I'm watching, if someone (a Joey Barton-esque player, as he's a common scapegoat for these sort of situations), tugs an opponent's shirt when that team is breaking away, or tripping someone on the half-way line when the defence is short, there is always displays of anger and outrage. Of course when it happens against your own team it's frustrating, but it would be hypocritical if I was to rage at such a situation when I know full well that I'd want a player in my team to do the same and 'take the booking' if the situation arose. Even when watching say, an EPL game, I'm perfectly understanding that these fouls are part of the game and need to be done sometimes, but it annoys me the number of people who jump up and claim "Aw, that's cynical, he should be off for that." or the likes.

4 - The insistance by some fans of Junior clubs that the level of the Juniors is better or on a par with the lower leagues in Scotland. There's a reason why large numbers of players move from the Juniors to the Scottish leagues to 'make it' at that level, and make a quick return to the Juniors. It's because they've been deemed not good enough. And that's because there is a fair gap between the leagues and the Juniors, but the refusal to accept this by some is quite frustrating.

5 - Short corners. I really don't understand the benefit of these. I realise that on very rare occasions, a short corner can be beneficial, but it's a very rare instance. You've won the corner and basically the opposition must give you a certain amount of space to put in a cross-ball, for which you've got time to 'pick the spot' you're aiming for. Whereas with a short corner, it's pretty much removing the time and space element you've been given to put in the cross by inviting the opposition to come and close you down, thus putting more pressure and giving you less composure for the cross.

[Michael W]

In no particular order:

The fact that an average player like Andy Carroll can command a fee of £35M. Yes, he scored a few goals for Newcastle, but f**k me: six months in the Premiership, and suddenly he's worth that? Give me a break. Newcastle must still be pissing their pants laughing at their fortune there - they demanded an utterly moronic fee, yet Liverpool still went ahead and paid it. Mugs.

The prices to go and watch a poor standard of football. We charge £17 for an adult, and that's not even the highest price in the division. I know many clubs in the lower leagues are struggling to survive, but the value for money on offer is often poor and it's no wonder that people won't turn up at games.

The infatuation in some quarters that seems to exist with comparing Scottish football to England. England has a much, much larger population, so there is much more money floating around as a consequence. Money is king in the modern game, and the gap is only going to widen.

Finally, the attitudes of football clubs towards their paying customers irritate me. We are basically taken for granted and the moment there's any suggestion of a funds shortage, the blame is laid square at the feet of the supporters for not turning up. It's never the board's fault for being unable to count, is it?

[Busta Nut]

MattBairn, on 26 January 2012 - 16:09, said:

Music after goals
Mascots
Alcohol ban
Live football on TV
Supporting more than 1 club team.

great post

[Curva Nord]

Albino Rover, on 25 January 2012 - 12:37, said:

Worse still, I am reminded of Inter Milan in the second leg of the Champions' League semi-final a couple of years ago where, 3-1 up on aggregate, Inter played 11 men behind the ball for the entire game. It was quite fun watching the extremes Barcelona went to (including putting Piqué up-front), but such a rubbish game from World class players and it would have cost a fortune for the 90,000 fans to go and watch.

Best game ever!!!

[Long live the 69]

1. I've never been to Celtic Park (in the home end), but at Ibrox, the c***s who look like they've just woken up in a cannabis factory, go to the game and call Jelavic pish for 70 mins because he's only scored 2, then leave.

2. Barcelona

3. Craig Burley

4. January transfer window.

5. The Football League

[Thistle_do_nicely]

ShakehandsTom - DFC, on 27 January 2012 - 08:21, said:

5 - Short corners. I really don't understand the benefit of these. I realise that on very rare occasions, a short corner can be beneficial, but it's a very rare instance. You've won the corner and basically the opposition must give you a certain amount of space to put in a cross-ball, for which you've got time to 'pick the spot' you're aiming for. Whereas with a short corner, it's pretty much removing the time and space element you've been given to put in the cross by inviting the opposition to come and close you down, thus putting more pressure and giving you less composure for the cross.

I can only understand short corners if a) the team taking the corner are winning and trying to timewaste; its frustrating if you're on the end of it, but totally understandable and desirable if its your team thats winning or b) there's an opportunity for a quick short corner to a player in space.

Watching a team (especially your own) spend about a minute getting everyone up in the box for a corner, then take it short to a player who then gets closed down and the cross blocked/loses the ball is frustrating beyond belief.

[McKee]

People who get uppity about others supporting a foreign team.

Total c***s.

[Thistle_do_nicely]

McKee, on 27 January 2012 - 18:59, said:

People who get uppity about others supporting a foreign team.

Total c***s.

Define foreign; I had a pal who genuinely went from supporting whoever the Champions League holders were from one season to the next (ie Porto one season, then Barcelona), as well as being a Tranmere and Rangers supporter. This was in secondary. He was an absolute laughing stock, and rightly so.

It's all about context, really. I can understand if somebody moves abroad and starts watching the local football team and gains an affinity with them, but people like the guy I mentioned are tragically common.

[berwick-the-unbeatable]

Ridiculous points such as Carroll and Henderson being bought for nothing because of the Torres money. No, you still spent ridiculous money on two players who have been utter shite, you fucking muppet.

[AyrshireTon]

One up one down. The game is dying on its feet and still it's all about the money and fear.

Music after a goal.

All seater stadia. Sleepy hollows are sadly, on the rise.

Vitriolic abuse from fans aimed at their own players. Often when they have not been playing that badly, too.

Sandy Jardine.

[ShakehandsTom - DFC]

Players putting the ball out of play for an opponent who is 'injured'. I'm not in favour of putting the ball out voluntarily at all. If it's a head-knock then of course, the play should be stopped, but it's up to the referee to do that (which I know it already is). If the referee is suitably concerned, then play should be stopped (which it often, and correctly is), otherwise, don't expect the ball to be put of play for the opponent to receive treatment.

[roverthemoon]

IainMorton, on 26 January 2012 - 16:06, said:

Chelsea are my English team and I can't afford to go and watch them as I spend most of my money going to watch Morton

This is a sentence I never expected to ever read

[jupe1407]

Tactically Inept Free Kicks - In a similar vein to the earlier comments about short corners, there are few things more annoying than the following scenario: Your team wins a free kick 25-30 out in a central position. For some completely inexplicable reason, the designated kicker (usually quite a decent dead ball striker) has a short free kick tapped to the side for him to set up a strike at goal. However in 999 cases out of 1000, an onrushing defender has got within about 2 yards of the ball, blocks it, and the whole thing's a fucking waste of time. Absolutely infuriating. AS Roma did this the other week with Totti, after being awarded a direct free kick 25 yards out.

Away Fans Who Complained About the Catering at Dens - Why come on here to express shock at the £19 gate money and the shite catering after a game? You've been warned countless times about the shiteness of the catering, yet despite walking past numerous newsagents and a couple of bakers on the way to the ground, you chose to spend an absurd sum of money on a shite cheeseburger or disgusting mince pie. Why do it?

Auchinleck Talbot Fans - Yes i know we shouldn't judge an entire support by their posters on here, but really, there are about 2 semi coherent Talbot fans who aren't complete imbeciles on here. So for that reason i'm putting the whole lot into Room 101, as my preferred option of machine-gunning them probably isn't available.

Music After a Goal - This isn't ice hockey, so f**k off.

"f**k the SNP" - Old Firm fans who rail against authority because someone's told them they can't sing about being up to their knees in f***an blood, or sing the praises of child-murdering terrorists. You'd think they'd been asked to sacrifice their first born then forcibly donate a kidney such has been the overreaction. FFS it's the 21st century you moronic c***s. Try spending some fucking time in it.

[Steve McQueen]

After listening to last nights 6-0-6:-


People who moan about the ball not being in the quadrant at a corner. It doesn't need to be in the quadrant or touching the line just over it!

[smpar]

Gary Neville & Charlie Nicholas on SSN - I can't decide which one of these 2 is more infuriating, Nichoas' "woooaaahhhh!" at a thow-in and Neville's commentating like "Laaasman what ahhh you doin?" really boils my piss.

Over paid players - Not much needs to be said here, but there should be a wage cap. Folk like the greedy c***s at Man City and Chelsea are ruining the game.

Football live on TV - Only incredibly significant games should be shown on TV, when there are no other games going on t the same time.

The OF

[deadasdillinger]

Seems as good a place as any to have a moan about the fact that in Gordon Waddell's awful Sunday Mail column today, he had a real mump and moan about ITV's coverage of the Barcelona game on Wednesday. After the game, Adrian Chiles (who is undoubtedly a tit) asked the panel about Messi - "Could he do a job at Stoke, though?"

Waddell took this at face value as if Chiles was totally serious, and used it as the basis for a mad rant about how the English think their league is the greatest in the world, how they're so arrogant, etc.

Anyone who watches Barca even on an occasional basis can probably tell you that it was a jokey reference to a very famous quote from Andy Gray a couple of years ago, who whilst commentating on an EPL game opined that Barcelona would struggle in the Premiership playing the likes of Stoke and that Messi would "struggle in a cold night at the Britiannia Stadium"

Few things piss me off more than football journalists who know considerably less than the fans - and while it wasn't the case in this instance, especially so if it's regarding the SPL. Scottish journalists should know the SPL and their players intimately, but most of them are clueless. I'm actually surprised that someone who supposedly watches and writes about football for a living doesn't know of that Stoke quote.

[ScottR96]

1. Old Firm Fans - I'm not exaggerating when I say that just about every Old Firm fan I have ever met is an uneducated moron. Even my Grandad and my father are just idiots when it comes to football. For example, my Grandad said today that the Administrators at Rangers are only trying to keep the club afloat because it's Rangers. He believes that if this was happening at Celtic, the administrators would have closed the club down by now. I was so desprately searching for a hint of sarcasm in his voice or in his facial expressions but he was being deadly serious. Also, this 'Ultra' phenomenon that is currently doing the rounds at Celtic and Rangers. It's gay as f**k! I love a sing song at a football match, but why do they feel the need to give themselves a name? It's just a front to air their bigoted/religous shite at every match. The sad thing is that the young people at schools are buying into it. The amount of people I see on Facebook with a Green Brigade or Union Bear badge as their profile photo is frightening. My school is covered with Green Brigade stickers as well. These 'Ultras' also seem to wear a specific type of clothing. Fred Perry and Addidas Gazelles can be seen on just about every idiot that claims to be part of an Ultra group. Get to f**k!

2. People that sit at a match and shout absolute nonsense at players/refs/managers for the full 90 minutes. There is a group of 12 or so Clyde fans that are notorious for it. And I'm not talking "You're shite, ref" - the stuff they shout is just sick. On more than one occaision the club have warned the fans about their behaviour but they continue to do it. An Arbroath player last season had racist abuse hurled at him; at Stranraer a few weeks ago, Clyde were denied a clear penalty. No denying that it was a horrendous decision but these morons shouted "I hope your wife dies in a fire, ref!" and similar bile for the rest of the game. Absolute shitgibbons. Thankfully at home games I choose to sit at the other end of the stand and generally don't hear them but at away games there is just no avoiding them.

3. The Tartan Army - I go to every Scotland home game. I love going to a sell out crowd at Hampden but the amount of cliched shite and generic patriotic comments are cringeworthy. As are people who wear kilts to Scotland games. It looks ridiculous. Don't even get me started on the hats with the feathered hats....

4. Early kick offs - Luckily I'm not really affected by this as there isn't exactly TV stations wanting to show a Clyde game live. However, I feel sorry for teams like Celtic and Rangers and their fans (even the Ultras!) who have get up at ridiculous times, often on a Sunday, to go and watch their team. It would just completely ruin the whole day for me. I'm sure there was a thread on here about 2 years ago about how Celtic haven't played an away fixture on a Saturday at 3pm since 2006 or something.

5. ESPN's football coverage - Oh dear f**k it's horrific. Craig Burley is a total idiot and his patter is just stinking. It gets all the shite games, too .

[Diamonds are Forever]

deadasdillinger, on 11 March 2012 - 22:33, said:

Seems as good a place as any to have a moan about the fact that in Gordon Waddell's awful Sunday Mail column today, he had a real mump and moan about ITV's coverage of the Barcelona game on Wednesday. After the game, Adrian Chiles (who is undoubtedly a tit) asked the panel about Messi - "Could he do a job at Stoke, though?"

Waddell took this at face value as if Chiles was totally serious, and used it as the basis for a mad rant about how the English think their league is the greatest in the world, how they're so arrogant, etc.

I read that aswell and thought the same thing, apparently he said it 'without a hint of irony'. He's either a complete moron or was just short of something to talk about so thought he would go for the old reliable 'english press bashing'. In reality it's almost certainly a bit of both.