[GoTeamGaz]

remarkable scenes on the way out the ground!

[Jordo1872]

el Gringo, on 21 January 2012 - 17:55, said:

We were cheated...blah blah blah....and I don't understand why their sub wasn't sent off for a knee-high studs up challenge on Fairley. But then, what dol I know?

Not very much if you think the challenge on your keeper was "knee-high studs up". It wasn't. He dived in, in an attempt to block the clearance. It was late and deserved a yellow card but to suggest anything more is wrong.

If I was an Airdrie supporter I'd be asking why, when leading 2-1 and with almost half the match still to go, the trialist decided it would be a good idea to stamp on an opposing player. It was stupid, unprovoked and in my opinion ultimately cost Airdrie the game. That said I thought Airdrie adapted well to being down to 10-men and could have won it. Two 50/50 penalty shouts and at least three clear cut chances on the break in the second half. Grindlay pulled off a number of key saves. In particular, one at 2-1 that would have put Airdrie clear. Typically followed a few minutes later with our equaliser. The home keeper didn't look to clever with high balls but given the weather conditions it's maybe understandable.


The goals we conceded were poor. Finnie being caught out of position for the first and then falling to deal with a straight forward through ball for the second.

The referee was poor but not helped by continuous niggling fouls, by both sides. I've now seen Airdrie three times this season and on each occasion they've been willing to dish it out. Today Dumbarton gave it back and I thought Nicoll was again effective in the middle.

The sending off certainly swung the game in Dumbarton's favour and if the home support have any grievance it should be focussed on that rather than the referee.

[BigDaz]

Loved every minute of todays game. 3 points and a fairly entertaining game. Mon the sons!!

[son hawk]

The Ref was absolutely rank for both teams today. Not to mention the 2nd Airdrie goal looked to be about a yard offside.

And the challenge on the keeper wasn't even a challenge, he slid to try and block the ball and the keeper kicked him. Or at least that's my view on it. Never a booking.

Oh aye, and the player that was sent off should receive a hefty ban which I doubt he will. If it was a Dumbarton player which committed that foul I'd still have been as furious as I was today at the Airdrie player.

[el Gringo]

Jordo1872, on 21 January 2012 - 18:51, said:

Not very much if you think the challenge on your keeper was "knee-high studs up". It wasn't. He dived in, in an attempt to block the clearance. It was late and deserved a yellow card but to suggest anything more is wrong.

If I was an Airdrie supporter I'd be asking why, when leading 2-1 and with almost half the match still to go, the trialist decided it would be a good idea to stamp on an opposing player. It was stupid, unprovoked and in my opinion ultimately cost Airdrie the game. That said I thought Airdrie adapted well to being down to 10-men and could have won it. Two 50/50 penalty shouts and at least three clear cut chances on the break in the second half. Grindlay pulled off a number of key saves. In particular, one at 2-1 that would have put Airdrie clear. Typically followed a few minutes later with our equaliser. The home keeper didn't look to clever with high balls but given the weather conditions it's maybe understandable.


The goals we conceded were poor. Finnie being caught out of position for the first and then falling to deal with a straight forward through ball for the second.

The referee was poor but not helped by continuous niggling fouls, by both sides. I've now seen Airdrie three times this season and on each occasion they've been willing to dish it out. Today Dumbarton gave it back and I thought Nicoll was again effective in the middle.

The sending off certainly swung the game in Dumbarton's favour and if the home support have any grievance it should be focussed on that rather than the referee.

Ok, I'll bow to your obviously superior knowledge. "Knee high" may have been a bit of an exaggeration, but he was certainly studs up, and if Connor's foot had been planted it could have been a leg-breaker. My idea of an attempted block is putting your foot in the path of the ball, not into the opposition player's leg. But hey, been and gone.

As for our penalty shouts... the one where Lynch went down was nothing, I think he tripped himself up, he got up straight away and didn't even appeal for it. The handball minutes later was pretty clear, and I can only assume the ref thought it was ball to hand as he can't possibly have missed it.

As I said, I didn't see the red card incident clearly, if he's deliberately stamped on Prunty he's an idiot and that did contribute to us not winning the game. As you say though, your goalkeeper having a great day and our goalkeeper not having a great day was a factor. Never mind, I'm going to get drunk now.

[diamondman]

I am I the only one that does not think that was a deserved sending off. From my perspective he tried to hurdle Prunty but stood on him; accidentally.

Why would you stamp on someone without any apparent friction between the two beforehand? I think he had only committed one foul in the game.

Oh, ....and taxi for Fairley!

[bring me SON shine]

Jordo1872, on 21 January 2012 - 18:51, said:

Not very much if you think the challenge on your keeper was "knee-high studs up". It wasn't. He dived in, in an attempt to block the clearance. It was late and deserved a yellow card but to suggest anything more is wrong.

If I was an Airdrie supporter I'd be asking why, when leading 2-1 and with almost half the match still to go, the trialist decided it would be a good idea to stamp on an opposing player. It was stupid, unprovoked and in my opinion ultimately cost Airdrie the game. That said I thought Airdrie adapted well to being down to 10-men and could have won it. Two 50/50 penalty shouts and at least three clear cut chances on the break in the second half. Grindlay pulled off a number of key saves. In particular, one at 2-1 that would have put Airdrie clear. Typically followed a few minutes later with our equaliser. The home keeper didn't look to clever with high balls but given the weather conditions it's maybe understandable.


The goals we conceded were poor. Finnie being caught out of position for the first and then falling to deal with a straight forward through ball for the second.

The referee was poor but not helped by continuous niggling fouls, by both sides. I've now seen Airdrie three times this season and on each occasion they've been willing to dish it out. Today Dumbarton gave it back and I thought Nicoll was again effective in the middle.

The sending off certainly swung the game in Dumbarton's favour and if the home support have any grievance it should be focussed on that rather than the referee.

well said that man.

[diamond_for_life]

diamondman, on 21 January 2012 - 19:22, said:

I am I the only one that does not think that was a deserved sending off. From my perspective he tried to hurdle Prunty but stood on him; accidentally.

Why would you stamp on someone without any apparent friction between the two beforehand? I think he had only committed one foul in the game.

Oh, ....and taxi for Fairley!

I usually have to say this to opposition fans but ffs take the diamond tinted specs off.

[Clarko_son]

The sending off completely changed the game, I couldn't really see us winning if he had kept playing as we had from the first half. A moment of absolute madness by the Airdrie defender changed all that, a proper rush of blood to the head moment Fairley seemed to gift us 2 goals (definitely for the second and don't think he covered himself in glory for the first). Pat Walker had to come on and score a winner, it's fate

Northcroft made some truly baffling calls throughout, pulling advantages back for no real reason, giving freekicks inconsistently. I thought it was a fairly obvious handball (wasn't deliberate I dont think, just through being a bit out of place but the ball definitely struck the arm) by Finnie in our box and there was another that would fall into the "seen them given" category although the player never actually appealed for it. The linesman closest to the stand was absolutely rank rotten as well, never in line with play and I was sure Airdrie's second was offside, although based on some of the decisions we got i'll let it slide

Despite the best attempts of the ref and co a football match almost did break out, even with 10 men Airdrie looked dangerous on the break and Grindlay had to make 2 in particular great saves. We created chances of our own towards the end though and managed to get the 3 points which I'm delighted about, 3 (late) wins on the trot now which puts us level with Stenny on points. The start of the second half to the season already looking better than the first.

This post has been edited by Clarko_son: 21 January 2012 - 20:07

[ThirdrockfromtheSon]

I wasn't there today, but I see a significant pattern forming of late.

We're winning the game by "one more than them" in the dying embers of the game. Tells me a couple of things:

We are fighting to the end - something that has been lacking in general.

Patch Walker is proving to be vital, and priceless.

More power to you, Alan Adamson. I like your management style. Something I haven't been completely positive about since the days of big Tam Carson.

Keep it up Sons. This could be our year.....

Edited for piss poor spelling...

This post has been edited by ThirdrockfromtheSon: 21 January 2012 - 19:53

[diamondman]

I usually have to say this to opposition fans but ffs take the diamond tinted specs off



Actually , that's how I saw it. My view. My opinion.... You clearly differ. So be it

[phelpsisking]

Ref was awful for both sides? We never got that penalty when sex offender played the ball away from McLaren with his hand

[The Phoenix]

phelpsisking, on 21 January 2012 - 22:59, said:

We never got that penalty when sex offender played the ball away from McLaren with his hand

Childish and completely unnecessary.

Grow up.

[bigmacDFC]

diamondman, on 21 January 2012 - 19:22, said:

I am I the only one that does not think that was a deserved sending off. From my perspective he tried to hurdle Prunty but stood on him; accidentally.

Why would you stamp on someone without any apparent friction between the two beforehand? I think he had only committed one foul in the game.

It was a clear sending off, I hope that guy never gets on a football pitch again.

I have heard that Prunty injured him last season, for the whole season.

Matt Norcroft is certainly one of the worst refs in this league, very inconsistent, today he wasn't good for either side.
Airdrie players were their usual diving, cheating selfs (although the ref didn't fall for it as much today). The suspected penalty was a ball-to-hand.

Lithgow shouldn't have been yellow carded, the Airdrie player pushed him, Lithgow did nothing.

I can't believe Airdrie fans booing Prunty after the head stamping, he didn't just stand on his head, he stamped on it.

[el Gringo]

bigmacDFC, on 21 January 2012 - 23:26, said:

It was a clear sending off, I hope that guy never gets on a football pitch again.

I have heard that Prunty injured him last season, for the whole season.

Matt Norcroft is certainly one of the worst refs in this league, very inconsistent, today he wasn't good for either side.
Airdrie players were their usual diving, cheating selfs (although the ref didn't fall for it as much today). The suspected penalty was a ball-to-hand.

Lithgow shouldn't have been yellow carded, the Airdrie player pushed him, Lithgow did nothing.

I can't believe Airdrie fans booing Prunty after the head stamping, he didn't just stand on his head, he stamped on it.

A bit of perspective would be nice.

[The Diamond]

bigmacDFC, on 21 January 2012 - 23:26, said:

It was a clear sending off, I hope that guy never gets on a football pitch again.

I have heard that Prunty injured him last season, for the whole season.

Matt Norcroft is certainly one of the worst refs in this league, very inconsistent, today he wasn't good for either side.
Airdrie players were their usual diving, cheating selfs (although the ref didn't fall for it as much today). The suspected penalty was a ball-to-hand.

Lithgow shouldn't have been yellow carded, the Airdrie player pushed him, Lithgow did nothing.

I can't believe Airdrie fans booing Prunty after the head stamping, he didn't just stand on his head, he stamped on it.

would rather have someone in my team who kicks peoples heads in than have a registered sex offender in the team

[Diamonds are Forever]

3 points thrown away, partly because of the sending off, but mainly because we couldn't finish 1 of about 4-5 great chances to go 3-1 up and then 3-2 up after they had equalised. Should also have snatched a draw with that miss right at the end. I didn't see the stamp but from what everyone has said it was pretty clear cut, idiotic thing to do. I did look up in time to see Prunty wriggling around like a Salmon out of water however, which was quite cringeworthy, to be be expected from him though. Even when down to 10 men we looked the more dangerous, up until the last 10-15 minutes I can't remember Dumbarton creating a chance and their only threat came from Agnew's set-pieces, while we continually missed great chances with some awful finishing.

I can't be arsed going through all the decisions the referee got wrong because it would take all night, he wasn't biased, he was just completely incompetent and an arsehole to boot. You could tell after 10 minutes that the game was going to turn nasty by the way he refereed it, continually making a big deal out of minor incidents by rushing in full pelt blowing his whistle 50 times and causing a scene instead of letting the players get on with it like they wanted to do. He's one of those refs that was obviously bullied at school and now loves being in a position of authority. Having said that I think he probably got the handball shouts correct as to me they weren't deliberate. The decision to give Dumbarton a free-kick which lead to their winner was a complete joke though. The near side linesman was hopeless too, Airdrie's second goal was clearly offside.

Outside of Cowdenbeath and maybe Arbroath there is absolutely nothing between the the rest of the teams, they're all pretty rank and whoever finishes in the bottom two is going to wonder how they managed to finish bottom of that pile of rubbish.

This post has been edited by Diamonds are Forever: 22 January 2012 - 02:05

[diamond_for_life]

I really don't get why people are criticising Prunty for making the most of things. How would you react to getting your head trampled on ???

Fact is it's another red card and yet more silly Indiscipline which is a far to frequent problem this season. Airdrie have far to many issues on and off the field and till that changes the results won't. Airdrie are no where near ready for a promotion push and after the games in hand are over with a relagaion battle will be the more likely outcome.

This post has been edited by diamond_for_life: 22 January 2012 - 03:28

[the auld son]

The Diamond, on 22 January 2012 - 01:33, said:

would rather have someone in my team who kicks peoples heads in than have a registered sex offender in the team

Act your age for heavens sake--- or maybe your mental age is the problem

[Sergeant Wilson]

++Ammo - Airdrie++, on 18 January 2012 - 16:33, said:

2-3 away win.

Tell me you had money on that!

[Aloysius Snuffleupagus]

the auld son, on 22 January 2012 - 10:32, said:

Act your age for heavens sake--- or maybe your mental age is the problem

Ignore him auld yin. He's an alias of a banned user (Norris Cole) and will eventually end up IP-banned as he can't help stepping over the line

[Diamonds are Forever]

diamond_for_life, on 22 January 2012 - 03:26, said:

I really don't get why people are criticising Prunty for making the most of things. How would you react to getting your head trampled on ???

I'm not criticising him, if he hadn't reacted like that the referee wouldn't have noticed it so he did what he had to do to get justice, the fish out of water routine was a bit extreme but I suppose it did the job.

[The Moonster]

Wee Red Book, on 21 January 2012 - 17:56, said:

Let's be honest, Dumbarton were fairly gash today and from what i've seen are generally a pretty unremarkable outfit. From an Airdire point of view, more points

On another note...should the sons no. 10 have been sent off for his uncontrolled lunge on the keeper? And the handball in the second half, how was that missed?

Pretty unremarkable outfit that are sitting in a nice wee lovely 4th place. Uncontrolled lunge is a bit OTT no? He was nowhere fucking near the keeper.

60s-airdrie, on 21 January 2012 - 18:11, said:

We're used to incompetent refs in this division, but I would not be surprised to learn that today's excuse for an official travelled home in the Dumbarton team bus. The sending off incident was correct, but it's a pity our keeper didn't writhe about when assaulted the way Prunty did or the sides might have been evened up. A stonewall penalty turned down and the suspicion of a Dumbarton handball leading up to their third goal, although I didn't see this clearly. What fascinated me about the ref was his interpretation of the advantage rule. On at least 3 occasions an Airdrie player was fouled. The ref waited until it was clear another Airdrie player had the ball in a more forward position, then he blew and brought the play back. But while Airdrie fans can complain with justification about the ref, he wasn't the reason we lost the game. That honour must lie with Jimmy Boyle and his inability to find a keeper and to build a reasonable defensive unit. I can't remember when we last scored or indeed won a ball from a corner, and yet teams constantly threaten us from dead ball situations. Lovering aside, it is difficult to expect 5' 8" defenders to cope with guys well over 6' tall. It is obvious to anyone except the manager. Still, we had enough good chances to win half a dozen games. We gifted 2 goals and Dumbarton had another 2 chances I can recall. They scored from 1 and the other was hit past the post after our keeper blocked a couple of shots. They moved the ball about well, but had no cutting edge. Even after we went down to 10 men, we continued to create chances, indeed some were even better than when we had 11 men. One was blasted against a player with the keeper stranded; Donnelly missed an absolute sitter; and Bain could have walked the ball into the net but chose instead to try and hit it first time. I don't know how many booking we picked up for dissent, but while I normally criticise players who pick up cards for this offence, today any dissent was justified as the ref was the most dishonest I have seen for many a year.

See above, he was nowhere fucking near the keeper and quite frankly, Lovering running in as if he'd malkied the keeper made more of the situation than it was.

The Diamond, on 21 January 2012 - 18:38, said:

cheated again

Get it up ye.

phelpsisking, on 21 January 2012 - 22:59, said:

Ref was awful for both sides? We never got that penalty when sex offender played the ball away from McLaren with his hand

Get it right up you.

Diamonds are Forever, on 22 January 2012 - 11:57, said:

I'm not criticising him, if he hadn't reacted like that the referee wouldn't have noticed it so he did what he had to do to get justice, the fish out of water routine was a bit extreme but I suppose it did the job.

Lie on the ground and I'll stamp on your head, we'll see how you fucking react.

I love late winners.

[Sweet Pete]

There's nothing like dignity in defeat.

Thanks for the 3 points, lads.

[The Moonster]

I should add that Donnelly is some player, not surprised that there's a lot of interest in him.