[Berti_Dee]

With there being televised games on Monday-Thursday, I thought I'd have a bash at doing a scaled-down version of 6 ---> G.

Quite a tricky to game to begin with tonight in the Championship, however.

Anyone got any thoughts on Crystal Palace v Birmingham?

Birmingham have a strong squad on paper but have performed pretty poorly away from home, with 6 defeats from their 10 matches.

[GiGi]

Started with a profit of £8 on an in play double, and stuck that £8 on APOEL Nicosia and under 2.5 goals against AEK Larneca. Was 2-0 after 90 minutes but APOEL scored again in injury time to continue a quite astonishing run of bad luck with 90+ minute goals for me. f**k sake.

[MrBigstuff89]

Marlon King to score 1st (6/1) £4
Birmingham to win 2-1 (17/2) £4
Scorecast (45/1) £2

Palace/Birmingham
York/Kidderminster
Pescara/Sampdoria
St Pauli/Frankfurt
Olhanense/Braga

£5 on BTTS & £5 on over 2.5 goals

Birmingham 7/5
York 4/6
Braga 8/13

£15 treble

[Berti_Dee]

Gone with £10 on over 2.5 goals in Crystal Palace v Birmingham game. Potential returns = £23.00.

[GiGi]

MrBigstuff89, on 19 December 2011 - 19:15, said:

York 4/6

Didn't take long. I had them on a single and 5 minutes in they're getting beat.

Edit: 1-3 now

This post has been edited by GiGi: 19 December 2011 - 20:18

[MrBigstuff89]

MrBigstuff89, on 19 December 2011 - 19:15, said:

Marlon King to score 1st (6/1) £4
Birmingham to win 2-1 (17/2) £4
Scorecast (45/1) £2

Palace/Birmingham
York/Kidderminster
Pescara/Sampdoria
St Pauli/Frankfurt
Olhanense/Braga

£5 on BTTS & £5 on over 2.5 goals

Birmingham 7/5
York 4/6
Braga 8/13

£15 treble

Fantastic effort as always...

[HEY_SIDNEY]

Blackburn v Bolton.

Over 12 corners
Over 2 goals
Over 45 pts for bookings.

£20 treble.

[Ross.]

£25 on Linfield tonight at 1/5, not exactly a massive stake or risk but I'm doing well recently with my singles. Also got a similar stake on Inter at home tomorrow, got 2/5 on them.

[Shuggie_Murray7]

Bolton
Norwich
East Fife
Berwick
Elgin

£3 accumulator returns £492.68

[Parscelona]

Shuggie_Murray7, on 20 December 2011 - 16:27, said:

Bolton
Norwich
East Fife
Berwick
Elgin

£3 accumulator returns £492.68

Those two games are off.

[#Gary]

I reckon Blackburn will win tonight but I wouldn't put money on it. Considered 2.5+ goals, or both teams to score, but ended up just sticking 10 quid on Yakubu to score any time.

[ParT]

Formica FGS.
Yakubu Anytime.
Blackburn to win 2—1.
Blackburn to win.

This post has been edited by ParT: 20 December 2011 - 20:03

[blue4578]

I reckon Bolton are the worst team in the Premier League, and by some distance at the moment. However Blackburn's defence tonight looks like an accident waiting to happen. I just couldn't back them to win at the current prices, which look pretty much right to me. Same with Wolves v Norwich. If I was forced to pick out one bet tonight, I'd probably have a small wager on Over 2.5 goals in the Blackburn v Bolton game @ 1.79, but I won't be backing that or anything else tonight. Perhaps may have a dabble in-running later on.

[#Gary]

Rudy, on 20 December 2011 - 18:45, said:

I reckon Blackburn will win tonight but I wouldn't put money on it. Considered 2.5+ goals, or both teams to score, but ended up just sticking 10 quid on Yakubu to score any time.

[HEY_SIDNEY]

HEY_SIDNEY, on 20 December 2011 - 12:55, said:

Blackburn v Bolton.

Over 12 corners
Over 2 goals
Over 45 pts for bookings.

£20 treble.

Changed this bet at 7:15 last night.

Took over 12 corners 2/1
Took over 2.5 goals 8/11
Took under 45 pts in bookings 5/4 due to findin out it was Martin Atikinson who rarely shows more than 3 yelloes a game.

£10 on it returns £116.60

other £10 went on Yakubu & Fletcher double anytime gs

[HEY_SIDNEY]

Goin same bet on the liverpool game. Over 12 corners, Over 2.5 goals, Under 45 pts in bookings. £10 treble.

£6 on VP, Aguero, Rooney fgs treble.

£100 on Lille, Lazio & Arsenal.

(Winnings from the above)

[Richard_B]

I'm really confused about laying. I was thinking about laying Everton tonight (at 1.63), but is it not more profitable just to back the draw/ Swansea win?

For example...

Laying £25.20 on Everton at 1.63 for a profit of £40

Backing £10 on Swansea win at 6/1 returns a profit of £60, backing the draw at 3/1 for £15 returns a profit of £45.

So basically, I'm going to get more money either way, and it could be jigged around a bit more to make the profits more even. What's the point in laying? Is it more use during bet in play?

[wunfellaff]

Richard_B, on 21 December 2011 - 11:35, said:

I'm really confused about laying. I was thinking about laying Everton tonight (at 1.63), but is it not more profitable just to back the draw/ Swansea win?

For example...

Laying £25.20 on Everton at 1.63 for a profit of £40

Backing £10 on Swansea win at 6/1 returns a profit of £60, backing the draw at 3/1 for £15 returns a profit of £45.

So basically, I'm going to get more money either way, and it could be jigged around a bit more to make the profits more even. What's the point in laying? Is it more use during bet in play?

dont think thats right, total of £40 maybe

This post has been edited by wunfellaff: 21 December 2011 - 11:45

[Richard_B]

wunfellaff, on 21 December 2011 - 11:41, said:

dont think thats right, total of £40 maybe

Well 1.63 is like 8/13 so 25 x 13/8 (for laying) would be like 65ish?

[wunfellaff]

Richard_B, on 21 December 2011 - 11:49, said:

Well 1.63 is like 8/13 so 25 x 13/8 (for laying) would be like 65ish?

so you're fronting £65 to make a profit of £40 ish..........

This post has been edited by wunfellaff: 21 December 2011 - 11:54

[sgm2]

No this isn't right. When you lay you are effectively acting like a bookmaker. So if you lay Everton for £25.20 (your lay stake) the following outcomes can occur:

Everton win (assuming 1.63 odds) you will lose £15.88
Everton lose or draw you win £25.20 (your lay stake)

[ClydeSI]

Richard_B, on 21 December 2011 - 11:35, said:

Laying £25.20 on Everton at 1.63 for a profit of £40

Backing £10 on Swansea win at 6/1 returns a profit of £60, backing the draw at 3/1 for £15 returns a profit of £45.

In the second part, you haven't taken the other bet into your profit consideration. Ie, the profits for the win would be 45, and the profit for the draw would be 35.

[wunfellaff]

sgm2, on 21 December 2011 - 12:04, said:

No this isn't right. When you lay you are effectively acting like a bookmaker. So if you lay Everton for £25.20 (your lay stake) the following outcomes can occur:

Everton win (assuming 1.63 odds) you will lose £15.88
Everton lose or draw you win £25.20 (your lay stake)

I know this, I am sober, I'll shut up now

[Richard_B]

You are right clydesi, I am an idiot. The lay of 25.20 to win the 65 odd returns was done on the betfair site, I think it may have been to win 40 I'd stake 25.20

[forehead7]

Richard_B, on 21 December 2011 - 11:35, said:

I'm really confused about laying. I was thinking about laying Everton tonight (at 1.63), but is it not more profitable just to back the draw/ Swansea win?

For example...

Laying £25.20 on Everton at 1.63 for a profit of £40

Backing £10 on Swansea win at 6/1 returns a profit of £60, backing the draw at 3/1 for £15 returns a profit of £45.

So basically, I'm going to get more money either way, and it could be jigged around a bit more to make the profits more even. What's the point in laying? Is it more use during bet in play?

Your odds seem weird, what bookie are you using?

Coral give odds of 3.75 for the draw, 5.50 for the Swansea win and 2.38 for the Draw/Win

So 25 on the lay gives 59.38 back
15 on the draw returns 56.25.
10 on the away win returns 55.

All of those including the stake, so laying it gives you more back than the individual bets.