[UptheA7]

Are clubs going to accept £5 per caution? How can this be administered? The new first aid set up what about all the clubs that paid to get a SIC only to find out it was money wasted. An empty threat. If clubs do not respond they WILL be shafted! ALL SAFA clubs should be responding to this proposed constitution with a resounding NO. Common sense must prevail, it is simply a money making exercise from the SAFA. Contact your association and tell them to re-consider.

[Siralec]

UptheA7, on 03 December 2011 - 21:29, said:

Are clubs going to accept £5 per caution? How can this be administered? The new first aid set up what about all the clubs that paid to get a SIC only to find out it was money wasted. An empty threat. If clubs do not respond they WILL be shafted! ALL SAFA clubs should be responding to this proposed constitution with a resounding NO. Common sense must prevail, it is simply a money making exercise from the SAFA. Contact your association and tell them to re-consider.

I've advised the League Secretary of our objections to the new Constitution, but unless all the other clubs raise their heads above the parapet, it'll be just a waste of breath. The £5 per caution rule alone is more than enough to make clubs call it a day, given that the financial pressures on most clubs is tough enough as it is. It IS amateur football, after all. The idiotic thing is that the League Secretary would probably have to employ someone to administer the system, which is another expense on the Association. As one of the clubs who paid the fee to have an already fully-qualified volunteer go through the SIC tests, I'm raging at the SAFA back-tracking after all their tough talk and dire threats. We already have qualified first-aiders on our books so to make someone waste a weekend for a valueless scrap of paper does ma heid in. The Border Amateur clubs HAVE to make their objections known to the BAFA, or their lack of action will result in a system that they really do NOT want or need.

[Eye Valley]

I remember speaking to the BAFA LS last season and he said his job would be nigh on impossible, imagine how many stamps would be req'd every week??

[i p squint]

Siralec, on 03 December 2011 - 22:13, said:

I've advised the League Secretary of our objections to the new Constitution, but unless all the other clubs raise their heads above the parapet, it'll be just a waste of breath. The £5 per caution rule alone is more than enough to make clubs call it a day, given that the financial pressures on most clubs is tough enough as it is. It IS amateur football, after all. The idioto send someone to hampdentic thing is that the League Secretary would probably have to employ someone to administer the system, which is another expense on the Association. As one of the clubs who paid the fee to have an already fully-qualified volunteer go through the SIC tests, I'm raging at the SAFA back-tracking after all their tough talk and dire threats. We already have qualified first-aiders on our books so to make someone waste a weekend for a valueless scrap of paper does ma heid in. The Border Amateur clubs HAVE to make their objections known to the BAFA, or their lack of action will result in a system that they really do NOT want or need.

i have aso sent an e mail to the league secretary,we have 6 first aiders & 2 paramedics involved at our club but yet we paid near £500 to send someone for 2 days at hampden to comply with this,i also think that having to put id numbers on the team sheets will just lead to huge confusion & also the £5 per caution will totally destroy clubs

[UptheA7]

In the first two rounds of the South Cup there were well over 100 cautions and about 5 red cards! Thats an awful lot of letters and fines to collect IF the new proposals were in place. There will be debt suspensions galore purely because club Secretaries will not be able to spend all their time doing the admin. Leagues will need full time secretaries to keep up with it all.

I wonder how much the SAFA will have to repay clubs who did the SIC or what punishment will be dished out to those who didn't?

[HibeeJibee]

I can't remember how many clubs are in SAFA but let's say it's 1000 - and an average might be 1 yellow card per club per game - and an average club might play 30 games a season... that's £150,000 is it not?

And that's with possibly conservative figures... there may be more than 1000 clubs, more than an average of 1 yellow per club per game, or more than 30 games on average per season.

What's the money to be spent on?


Doing a U-turn on the SICs would be very controversial too.