[THE KING]

Enrico Annoni, on 20 October 2011 - 23:31, said:

Craig Whyte was made aware of the programme weeks ago, if he really felt the BBC were telling a load of porkies, why didn't he do something about it back then?

thats why he popped up on stv last night talking about how great he was and more moonbeams of cash comming in...theres no danger he'll take the beeb to court that would involve him having to tell the truth....just a pathetic attempt to sooth the brain cell of paranoia fc.

[Hampden Diehard]

THE KING, on 21 October 2011 - 09:25, said:

just a pathetic attempt to sooth the brain cell of paranoia fc.

Hold on, hold on....I think another Glasgow-based side have claim to that name! No, not us.

I've got to say, all this current "Lennon to go / stay" and Rangers' tax stuff is quality entertainment.

This post has been edited by Hampden Diehard: 21 October 2011 - 11:28

[Gaz]

Just checking in, the answer is still NO it would seem.

[barrysnotter]

No.

[Tim Malloy]

[LordHawHaw]

Can you imagine that blustering buffoon in court, he reminds me of T-i-m, dim but nice, but without the nice bit

[Tim Malloy]

LordHawHaw, on 24 October 2011 - 20:24, said:

Can you imagine that blustering buffoon in court, he reminds me of T-i-m, dim but nice, but without the nice bit

Ya cheeky bism!

[tazz1903]

Kincardine, on 20 October 2011 - 21:48, said:

Then why did you not only ponce about but make a show of poncing about over asking the question?

Everyone knows the answer but why did you have to feign ignorance?



The question was "Have Rangers Taken The BBC To Court Yet?" and the answer is "No". Pretty obvious really. Rangers will not take the BBC to court over tonight's TV programme and have no reason to do so.

White may sue for some variation of defamation but that remains to be seen.

So it's a stupid question.

Who is White ? .

[KnightswoodBear]

Does this boycott of the BBC mean that I can't watch Merlin on Saturday night?

Thank f**k Downton Abbey is on STV

[the jambo-rocker]

Yes.
































lulz

[Ronaldobhoy]

youngsy, on 20 October 2011 - 21:33, said:

Back on topic, Craig Whyte has informed his legal team to initiate legal proceedings against the BBC for allegations of criminality against Whyte. So does that help you.

That would be a bit silly, as it wasn't the BBC that made the allegation.

[youngsy]

Ronaldobhoy, on 28 October 2011 - 13:41, said:

That would be a bit silly, as it wasn't the BBC that made the allegation.

They aired the allegations in their programme and apparently Whyte is taking legal action against the BBC for the full content of the programme.

[THE KING]

youngsy, on 28 October 2011 - 14:31, said:

They aired the allegations in their programme and apparently Whyte is taking legal action against the BBC for the full content of the programme.

can you tell me if the bbc has been banned from commentating on the next rangers home game? if not then why not..and have rangers stopped taking their share of the bbc money they pay to the spl for coverage?

[Tim Malloy]

youngsy, on 28 October 2011 - 14:31, said:

They aired the allegations in their programme and apparently Whyte is taking legal action against the BBC for the full content of the programme.

Just once Craig Whyte finds a lawyer that will agree to take Jelavic's balls as a retainer fee?

[youngsy]

THE KING, on 28 October 2011 - 14:43, said:

can you tell me if the bbc has been banned from commentating on the next rangers home game? if not then why not..and have rangers stopped taking their share of the bbc money they pay to the spl for coverage?

I would think that they can't ban the BBC from commentating at Ibrox as they are contracted by the SPL to comentate on games,not by Rangers. Why would they stop taking their share of the BBC money as it is their legal right as members of the SPL.

[THE KING]

youngsy, on 28 October 2011 - 15:20, said:

I would think that they can't ban the BBC from commentating at Ibrox as they are contracted by the SPL to comentate on games,not by Rangers. Why would they stop taking their share of the BBC money as it is their legal right as members of the SPL.

Just as I thought , no principles then, Rangers are quite happy to take money from this so called biased anti rangers organisation.....dignity They're are also contracted by the SPL to provide someone for interviews which they haven't been doing

This post has been edited by THE KING: 28 October 2011 - 15:41

[Tim Malloy]

THE KING, on 28 October 2011 - 15:39, said:

Just as I thought , no principles then, Rangers are quite happy to take money from this so called biased anti rangers organisation.....dignity They're are also contracted by the SPL to provide someone for interviews which they haven't been doing

eh? They gave us Chick Young!

Hey,hey,hey!

[THE KING]

Tim Malloy, on 28 October 2011 - 15:43, said:

eh? They gave us Chick Young!

Hey,hey,hey!

Matbe the bbc should withhold Rangers share of the cash they give to the spl?

http://www.guardian....bbc-ewan-murray
Can Rangers go to war with BBC but still take its broadcast cash?The test of how far Rangers want to take their war with the BBC will arrive on Saturday week, when Dundee United are at Ibrox


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Rangers' football club owner Craig Whyte made repeated allegations of agenda and bias towards the BBC. Photograph: Lynne Cameron/PA Archive/Press Association Ima
The true test of how far Rangers want to take their war with the BBC will arrive on Saturday week. If it seemed timely that the club withdrew all co-operation with the broadcaster amid a gap in home matches, that belies the apparently entrenched position of the Rangers owner, Craig Whyte.

Last weekend Whyte made it clear that any member of the Rangers staff who speaks to a BBC employee, even off the record, would be sacked. Whyte made repeated allegations of agenda and bias towards the BBC. The screening of a documentary last week about the businessman's background had the Rangers owner promising to sue. There are a lot of phoney, cranked-up battles within Scottish football but this isn't one of them.

For all that sceptics believe Whyte is using this offensive to pull a veil over Rangers' current, unquestionable off-field bother, he will find backing in the Ibrox stands. Supporters like nothing more than a public defence of their club. In this case, the BBC had already riled Rangers in recent months – and been forced to apologise – over some dubious editing of footage featuring Ally McCoist in a television news package.

Still, wild allegations by fans about deep-rooted or ingrained bias against one club should be laughed off. The Rangers support, after all, would be quick to ridicule similar claims if they emanated from the other side of Glasgow.

The specifics of this messy scenario aside, there is a wider issue relating to media rights holders' role in the Scottish Premier League. As part of its annual seven-figure, cross-platform deal, the BBC offers online and radio commentary on every SPL match. Exclusive pre- or post-match interviews with managers are guaranteed. Rangers denied the BBC entry to the general pre-match and post-match press conference around last weekend's win at Hearts. McCoist, moreover, did not carry out his routine pitchside BBC interviews at Tynecastle.

The Scottish Premier League's silence on such matters is intriguing, and hints that it wants this matter to disappear quietly. It is with the SPL, after all, that the BBC holds a contract; and from which it has sought clarification since last week. Are set penalties in place in the event that a club fails to co-operate with a rights holder? If the league has only guidelines, and not set rules, then clubs can act as they see fit.

Dundee United's visit to Ibrox next Saturday will be fascinating because a ban on live BBC commentary would seem an obvious breach of a media contract. If not now, at that stage the SPL's power over clubs would certainly be tested. Hearts are in a similar position, in refusing to speak with any external media at all. Is it reasonable that clubs claim their share of the SPL's supposedly crucial broadcast income without meeting obligations?

The true value of that investment will become clear in the not too distant future. The BBC is in discussions regarding the extension of its SPL deal, which expires at the end of the season, with clubs having an option to continue, to re-negotiate or to break the main broadcast contracts they have with Sky and ESPN at the same juncture.

It must not be ignored that the frustrations of Rangers and Celtic in relation to current commercial income mean they would be perfectly amenable to negotiating their own broadcast deals. The remainder of the SPL can legitimately argue that Old Firm matches can't take place every week.

The diminishing value of sports broadcast rights means the odds remain in favour of the SPL retaining the status quo for another two years at least. Still, the sight of little more than 4,000 people turning up for second-placed Motherwell's match at home to Kilmarnock last Saturday lunch time posed questions.

If clubs can legitimately argue that declining attendances are offsetting the monies received from broadcast deals, a move to SPL Television – as is being investigated – may not be so fanciful. However convincing bank managers that guaranteed cash should be ignored for the risk of a pay-per-view deal would take some doing, there is potential merit in the sale of a channel which has the key attraction of exclusivity. The BBC would almost certainly need to be retained as a broadcast partner, with sponsors keen on the free-to-air outlet its coverage provides.

For now, Rangers are not of a mind to retain the BBC in any capacity. It will be fascinating to see who blinks first.

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[youngsy]

THE KING, on 28 October 2011 - 15:39, said:

Just as I thought , no principles then, Rangers are quite happy to take money from this so called biased anti rangers organisation.....dignity They're are also contracted by the SPL to provide someone for interviews which they haven't been doing

They're a business,what do you expect a business to do,turn away money that they are as entitled to as much as any other SPL club. As for interviews is it a condition of the contract between the SPL and the BBC that they have to give interviews whatever the relationship between a club and the broadcasting company. Edit too add,the statement in the post above doesn't seem to give any confirmation as to giving interviews is a contractural agreement.

This post has been edited by youngsy: 28 October 2011 - 16:03

[Enrico Annoni]

youngsy, on 28 October 2011 - 15:57, said:

they are as entitled to as much as any other SPL club.

Why?

Rangers have thrown the dummy out the pram, refusing to speak with BBC Scotland, but are yet happy to take license payers money.

FFS, this is the same club who could go under for not paying the taxman.

Fucking cry babies, expecting everything for free

[53_and_counting]

Tim Malloy, on 28 October 2011 - 15:43, said:

eh? They gave us Chick Young!

Hey,hey,hey!

tim see your sig, even if we did start again we'd still hit 50 titles before your shitey lot would

[Tim Malloy]

53_and_counting, on 28 October 2011 - 23:31, said:

tim see your sig, even if we did start again we'd still hit 50 titles before your shitey lot would

aye ok! ya maddy!

[youngsy]

Enrico Annoni, on 28 October 2011 - 23:11, said:

Why?

Rangers have thrown the dummy out the pram, refusing to speak with BBC Scotland, but are yet happy to take license payers money.

FFS, this is the same club who could go under for not paying the taxman.

Fucking cry babies, expecting everything for free.

What do you mean,why? Are Rangers a member club of the SPL? Yes. Have the SPL member clubs got a contract with the BBC to commentate on SPL games? Another yes. Are Rangers entitled to payments from the BBC as an SPL member club?That's another yes.

Refer to the bit in bold,does this mean that every SPL club get this payment for free or is it just Rangers that you're referring to? Also at this moment in time the HMRC tax issue has not been decided either way as regards who is right or otherwise in this case.

Whether you or anybody else likes it or not Craig Whyte has got an issue with the BBC and has decided to withdraw cooperation with them as regards interviews and such but they are still legally entitled to the contractural payments the same as every other SPL club and there is not any other club which would refuse these payments.

[barrysnotter]

NO

[Space Cowboy]

Why all this fuss about Rangers refusing to give interviews - it didn't seem to bother the Celtic fans last season when Lennon refused to talk to anyone from the press before and after games.