[Gnash]

To be fair, the clothes your parents dress you in when you're 4 (or however old he is in that photo) say nothing about what country you've always wanted to play for.

[Enrico Annoni]

And he's just scored his 40th goal of the season

[xaviermaw]

Top goalscorer in ALL of league football. MORE than RVP!! God, get him a full cap sorted!!!

[Gordopolis]

xaviermaw, on 15 May 2012 - 20:55, said:

Top goalscorer in ALL of league football. MORE than RVP!! God, get him a full cap sorted!!!

And another exquisite finish. One chance pretty much = one goal with Rhodes, and I think that's why he will be in the Premiership next season, not the Championship.

I'd like to have seen him in the full Scotland squad for the USA game.

I know the U21s have a competitive game, but their sole purpose is to produce players for the full squad, and I honestly think he's ready for that (it's not like he's a teenager). It would have been a good opportunity to give him a start with no pressure, ideally allowing him to notch a goal or two for the full side and be as prepared as he could be for the forthcoming WC campaign. CL has already done as much with James Forrest, effectively promoting him full time to the senior squad.


On that note, why has Jonny Russell been selected for the senior squad instead of being left with the U21s??

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what happens if Rhodes gets a big move to the Prem and starts the new season well, as it would surely force CL to start him ahead of Kenny Miller. Or, God Forbid, we could start with both of them? Maybe even 4-2-4?

I'll go off and take my pills now...

This post has been edited by Gordopolis: 15 May 2012 - 21:25

[Craigy_Bhoy67]

I do agree that Rhodes should be given the chance in the first team properly now but I'm not too fussed about him not playing in the USA game as he can help out the U21s and then he'll probably get a chance against Australia in August.

[qos_75]

The play off final is the same weekend as the friendly in the USA, so there was little chance of him figuring in that game.

[The Troll]

Don't understand why folk are so desperate for him to play but mocked Gary McKenzie for getting called up?

Until he scores regularly for a higher league team he shouldn't be considered a starter, especially not ahead of Kenny Miller or Jamie Mackie. In fact with David Goodwillie looking likely to be a Championship regular I think a "square-go" to be Scotlands next first choice forward could happen in that league

This post has been edited by The Troll: 15 May 2012 - 22:15

[qos_75]

The Troll, on 15 May 2012 - 22:15, said:

Don't understand why folk are so desperate for him to play but mocked Gary McKenzie for getting called up?

Until he scores regularly for a higher league team he shouldn't be considered a starter, especially not ahead of Kenny Miller or Jamie Mackie. In fact with David Goodwillie looking likely to be a Championship regular I think a "square-go" to be Scotlands next first choice forward could happen in that league

He has been scoring regularly for the U21's too, so it only natural that folk want to see him in the full squad. No harm in him getting blooded in friendlies. To be fair the guy has got talent and I think he will do well at a higher level.

[The Troll]

qos_75, on 15 May 2012 - 22:29, said:

He has been scoring regularly for the U21's too, so it only natural that folk want to see him in the full squad. No harm in him getting blooded in friendlies. To be fair the guy has got talent and I think he will do well at a higher level.

Yeah I've no problem with him getting a chance to prove himself in Friendlies. It's the folk commanding he starts every game ahead of far higher pedigree strikers who I was responding to

[paddymcp]

The Troll, on 15 May 2012 - 22:15, said:

Don't understand why folk are so desperate for him to play but mocked Gary McKenzie for getting called up?

Until he scores regularly for a higher league team he shouldn't be considered a starter, especially not ahead of Kenny Miller or Jamie Mackie. In fact with David Goodwillie looking likely to be a Championship regular I think a "square-go" to be Scotlands next first choice forward could happen in that league

League 1 is comparable to the SPL and that staggering amount of goals scored in a team who won a good bit less than half their games shouldn't be sniffed at.

There's nothing to stop Jordan Rhodes progressing into a top top player but only himself.

[paddymcp]

The Troll, on 15 May 2012 - 22:32, said:

Yeah I've no problem with him getting a chance to prove himself in Friendlies. It's the folk commanding he starts every game ahead of far higher pedigree strikers who I was responding to

Steven Fletcher is the only striker you could say was definetly better than him at this point and so i'd say there's as much case for Rhodes to be in the reckoning in the full squad than the available others.

The likes of Miller, Mackail-Smith & Goodwillie are decent players but really aren't much else.

[Enrico Annoni]

paddymcp, on 15 May 2012 - 23:18, said:

League 1 is comparable to the SPL

It's really not

A lot of lower league football (including championship) is basically just chop and punt. I wish people would stop putting the SPL down, the standard of football is much better than league 1

[paddymcp]

Enrico Annoni, on 15 May 2012 - 23:31, said:

It's really not

A lot of lower league football (including championship) is basically just chop and punt. I wish people would stop putting the SPL down, the standard of football is much better than league 1

I wish i agreed.

The SPL is a truly horrendous standard. Diddy's in charge, poor coaching, no money and clubs consistently and constantly downsizing have put paid to that.

Most SPL is kick and rush.

Danny Lennon & Kenny Shiels slabbering about this mythical passing philosophy after passing the ball around outside their own 18 yard box for a minute or two before punting it up aimlessly after any sort of pressure doesn't wash with me.

This post has been edited by paddymcp: 15 May 2012 - 23:56

[Mr. Brightside]

^^^ has never seen Motherwell Football Club play.

[paddymcp]

Mr. Brightside, on 16 May 2012 - 00:11, said:

^^^ has never seen Motherwell Football Club play.

Unfortunately i have. Along with Clancy, Lasley & Higdon. Coincadentally the spine of your side and the archetypes of SPL kick and rush football 2012.

This post has been edited by paddymcp: 16 May 2012 - 00:39

[Mr. Brightside]

Well, that's two post of complete nonsense in a row from you.

Us, Dundee United, Killie, St Johnstone and St Mirren play relatively decent football.

[craigkillie]

So do Celtic. He obviously sees what he wants to see.

[Gordopolis]

qos_75, on 15 May 2012 - 22:10, said:

The play off final is the same weekend as the friendly in the USA, so there was little chance of him figuring in that game.

D'oh, yeah, I just worked that out on the way to work this am!

This post has been edited by Gordopolis: 16 May 2012 - 07:48

[gonzohiggy]

paddymcp, on 15 May 2012 - 23:52, said:

I wish i agreed.

The SPL is a truly horrendous standard. Diddy's in charge, poor coaching, no money and clubs consistently and constantly downsizing have put paid to that.

Most SPL is kick and rush.

Danny Lennon & Kenny Shiels slabbering about this mythical passing philosophy after passing the ball around outside their own 18 yard box for a minute or two before punting it up aimlessly after any sort of pressure doesn't wash with me.

Did you not watch the League Cup Final?

[craigkillie]

gonzohiggy, on 16 May 2012 - 12:02, said:

Did you not watch the League Cup Final?

He's a Celtic fan, of course he didn't.

[RB-Scotland]

paddymcp, on 15 May 2012 - 23:52, said:

I wish i agreed.

The SPL is a truly horrendous standard. Diddy's in charge, poor coaching, no money and clubs consistently and constantly downsizing have put paid to that.

Most SPL is kick and rush.

Danny Lennon & Kenny Shiels slabbering about this mythical passing philosophy after passing the ball around outside their own 18 yard box for a minute or two before punting it up aimlessly after any sort of pressure doesn't wash with me.

It's not great, but neither are the Championship or League 1. The likes of Motherwell, United and Hearts would be comfortably mid-table in the Championship. Big wage bills and the Sky hype machine seem to have brainwashed rather a lot of people, but you just need to look at how players who've gone down south from the SPL have typically fared to see that there's no real difference in quality(yes, there's some exceptions, but that also goes for Championship players who've come up here).

You're being harsh on Smurn and Killie too, especially the latter. Very rare to see Killie play it long, other than diagonal passes out to the wing.

[TheScarf]

This has gone a tad off topic, to keep it off topic - the standard of League 1 is horrendous. The quality on show the other night between Sheffield United and Stevenage Borough was eye-bleedingly bad.

On topic - Oh, Rhodes, he scores goals

[woof!]

Most SPL sides try to play a passing game, unlike 10 years ago. That said, the standard of player, outwith the OF, is on a par with League 1, with some notable exceptions.