[ICTChris]

I like the fact that the head of the LDS had a 'revelation' that they should allow black priests in 1978, after the Civil Rights movement, teh end of Jim Crow etc. Nice of God to deliver the revelation then rather than in the 1930s or 40s when it would've caused a bigger problem for the movement.

[Swampy]

Incidentally, anyone who thinks that Mittens really is the 'soft' candidate should read this:

http://www.washingto...s=post-partisan

tl;dr version: he's pandering to the GOP's burgeoning bigot wing in order to win the primaries quickly. Does it matter if he's the smart one, the reasonable one, if he will adopt vicious, unreasonable positions to win votes?

This post has been edited by Swampy: 06 October 2011 - 14:55

[Ric]

The Americans voted in Bush, twice, and twice again. Obama's potential doesn't come even close to restoring my faith in their ability to not elect a fuckwit.

[kiwififer]

who is the fruit loop that wants to ban masterbation, as she didn't want her husband thinking of her when he was doing it?

To quote Rich hall, if he's cracking one off, he ain't gonna be thinking about his wife......

[the jambo-rocker]

yoda, on 06 October 2011 - 11:30, said:

This one?

The one and the same mate. Epic as f**k.

[yoda]

kiwififer, on 06 October 2011 - 16:48, said:

who is the fruit loop that wants to ban masterbation, as she didn't want her husband thinking of her when he was doing it?

To quote Rich hall, if he's cracking one off, he ain't gonna be thinking about his wife......

Christine O'Donnell.

[Swampy]

kiwififer, on 06 October 2011 - 16:48, said:

who is the fruit loop that wants to ban masterbation, as she didn't want her husband thinking of her when he was doing it?

To quote Rich hall, if he's cracking one off, he ain't gonna be thinking about his wife......

That's Christine O'Donnell, a very strange woman popular with some of the braver and more socially conservative 'baggers. She's indicative of what I like to call the 'pure' 'baggers - that is, the ones who won't really go anywhere far in national politics because they actually believe every word of the nonsense that they come out with. By contrast, it's very easy for someone like Sarah Palin to simply lie, and change her tune depending on her audience, but O'Donnell is driven entirely by faith and ideology and as such is weeded out early in general elections. She actually won the Republican nomination in Delaware but was roundly thrashed in the Senate race itself. (To put it in perspective, she lost by only 8% less than she did two years prior - and that time she was up against an incumbent, the very popular Joe Biden, who stood down to become Vice President.) This is the pattern for pure 'baggers in most (but sadly not all) of the country - their conviction politics win them early successes but even against the fairly modest standards of the US electorate they do not stand up to scrutiny.

[kiwififer]

yoda, on 06 October 2011 - 17:03, said:

Christine O'Donnell.

ahh. I wish we had politicians like her.

actually I don't, but the place would be anything but boring.

Has any tories been caught with polish twins, a cucumber and a vat of KY yet?

[welshbairn]

Swampy, on 06 October 2011 - 17:09, said:

That's Christine O'Donnell, a very strange woman popular with some of the braver and more socially conservative 'baggers. She's indicative of what I like to call the 'pure' 'baggers - that is, the ones who won't really go anywhere far in national politics because they actually believe every word of the nonsense that they come out with. By contrast, it's very easy for someone like Sarah Palin to simply lie, and change her tune depending on her audience, but O'Donnell is driven entirely by faith and ideology and as such is weeded out early in general elections. She actually won the Republican nomination in Delaware but was roundly thrashed in the Senate race itself. (To put it in perspective, she lost by only 8% less than she did two years prior - and that time she was up against an incumbent, the very popular Joe Biden, who stood down to become Vice President.) This is the pattern for pure 'baggers in most (but sadly not all) of the country - their conviction politics win them early successes but even against the fairly modest standards of the US electorate they do not stand up to scrutiny.

Confessing to 'dabbling' in witchcraft when she was young also alienated her from much of the teabagger vote....

Quote

"One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar, and I didn't know it. I mean, there's a little blood there and stuff like that … We went to a movie and then had a little midnight picnic on a satanic altar."

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[Broccoli Dog]

yeah like she's the first GOP member to have ever hung around a satanic altar.

[Swampy]

It barely made a dent. She strolled the primary. It made her a bit of a comedy figure nationally but that was about it. In fact in what was a strangely good move for her she simply asked in response, how many of you didn't hang out with a couple of weirdos in high school?

[welshbairn]

Swampy, on 06 October 2011 - 17:44, said:

It barely made a dent. She strolled the primary. It made her a bit of a comedy figure nationally but that was about it. In fact in what was a strangely good move for her she simply asked in response, how many of you didn't hang out with a couple of weirdos in high school?

The video didn't surface until after she was selected as the Republican Candidate...

[Swampy]

welshbairn, on 06 October 2011 - 17:49, said:

The video didn't surface until after she was selected as the Republican Candidate...

Ah. Well, my bad. Let me rephrase: I sincerely doubt that it made a dent. 40% of the popular vote would suggest a 'bagger-plus-registered Republican alliance. In any case I don't think her religious bona fides could at all be questioned at that point.

[welshbairn]

Swampy, on 06 October 2011 - 17:52, said:

Ah. Well, my bad. Let me rephrase: I sincerely doubt that it made a dent. 40% of the popular vote would suggest a 'bagger-plus-registered Republican alliance. In any case I don't think her religious bona fides could at all be questioned at that point.

You're probably right about the hardcore baggers, but I doubt she helped herself with the general religious right with this ad, which would have embedded the idea that she has danced with Beelzebub...

[kiwififer]

welshbairn, on 06 October 2011 - 18:04, said:

You're probably right about the hardcore baggers, but I doubt she helped herself with the general religious right with this ad, which would have embedded the idea that she has danced with Beelzebub...

I'd hit it. Kilt probably has up Beltane.

[ICTChris]

Why are all these insane social conservative female Republicans so hot?

[Swampy]

welshbairn, on 06 October 2011 - 18:04, said:

You're probably right about the hardcore baggers, but I doubt she helped herself with the general religious right with this ad, which would have embedded the idea that she has danced with Beelzebub...

Jesus christ I'd never seen that. I can't believe she actually said "I'm not a witch" into a camera.

[Swampy]

Swampy, on 06 October 2011 - 12:26, said:

Economically, he's generally a big business Republican (as opposed to an ideological 'bagger Republican like Bachman). Big business Republicans will fiercely strive to maintain the status quo (given that it's so business-friendly), and make small gestures towards ending social programs, but without the burning zeal of the 'baggers.

Socially, he's just another authoritarian. Doesn't like the gays, doesn't like the immigrants, doesn't like the Muzzies. This plays well with the Republican base, needless to say, who at this point are similarly narrow-minded. The fact that he's some kind of senior goddist (not sure what denomination - I'd be surprised if it was a mainstream one) also helps.

It's extremely unlikely that he'll carry the nomination. It would take something very special on the debate circuit, some massive concessions to the Midwest, and a Romney collapse, for that to happen.

Spermin' Herman has now suspended his campaign in order to spend more time with your wife.

Anyone wanna turn this into the US presidential election thread? I do. It is done.

[xbl]

I've been following the campaign, and I've come to the easy conclusion that most of the candidates, and pretty much all of the republican "base" are absolutely insane.

[yoda]

It has been suggested that most of Herman "Obama handled Libya badly. What would I have done? Um, Nine Nine Nine" Cain's support will go to Newt Gingrich. He seems to be the main contender alongside Romney? It certainly won't be Perry after his wonderful "Oops" moment a few weeks ago.

I'm quite looking forward to see the result of the "Anyone but Romney. Anyone. Please." race for the Republican candidacy.

[Broccoli Dog]

The Americans have been getting high on the smell of their own farts since the days of Reagan, the entire country is in a terminal slide into Jenkam induced hysteria.

[Swampy]

xbl, on 04 December 2011 - 23:07, said:

I've been following the campaign, and I've come to the easy conclusion that most of the candidates, and pretty much all of the republican "base" are absolutely insane.

Usually the informal definition of insane, yes, this is true. I tried (and partially succeeded, I think) to put across the general feeling of the right-wing authoritarian base in post 18 on this thread. The candidates are a motley mix of those who genuinely share this aversion to reality in favour of... well, a load of nonsense (Bachman), those who will say whatever they think 51% of the audience wants to hear (Romney), and those who are posturing further and further to the right in order to court the Bachman set (Perry.) Oh and there's Newt Gingrich, who will profit greatly from Cain's disappearance. Gingrich is, in the words of Paul Krugman, "a stupid person's idea of what a smart person sounds like." He's made a reputation as an "ideas man", despite his flagship legislation of the early 90s, the Contract with America, being completely ineffectual and even damaging. It was, however, a brilliant piece of politics, as it captured the mood of the times perfectly. Fast forward 16 years or so and Newt is fiercely backpedalling on some of his previously sane positions - he is dogged by his co-operating with Democrat Nancy Pelosi on climate change, and is doing his best to show that he's changed his mind there - and is drifting ever rightwards towards the Crazy Archipelago, where the Republican primary elections are soon to take place.

I think the mainstream pundits are right. This is all for show and Mittens, as the only electable candidate with good financial support, will take the nomination with relative ease. Bachman will fizzle out very quickly, Gingrich will be voted against by pragmatists who know he can't win the general election, and guys like Huntsman who are at least on speaking terms with the real world will sink without a trace.

[Swampy]

yoda, on 04 December 2011 - 23:10, said:

It has been suggested that most of Herman "Obama handled Libya badly. What would I have done? Um, Nine Nine Nine" Cain's support will go to Newt Gingrich. He seems to be the main contender alongside Romney? It certainly won't be Perry after his wonderful "Oops" moment a few weeks ago.

I'm quite looking forward to see the result of the "Anyone but Romney. Anyone. Please." race for the Republican candidacy.

Yes, that's the mainstream opinion and it's probably correct. People taken in by Cain's shiny but breathtakingly content-free 9-9-9 plan will surely alight on kindred spirit and "ideas man" Newt Gingrich. That he's on his third wife and was caught returning from the Dominican Republic with a prescription of Viagra in another person's name* seemingly won't deter the family values crowd whose pearl-clutching so quickly and irreversibly killed Cain.

Incidentally, there has been very little mention of the fact that allegations of a completely consensual, 13-year relationship with a mistress was treated with far greater severity than allegations of sexual harassment, and also sexual assault (groping a prospective employee's crotch under her skirt.)

*as soon as I posted that I remembered that that was actually Rush Limbaugh, the radio host. I apologise unreservedly to Newt for my error there and will be happy to donate him four of my most hastily-concocted ideas for his collection of bad ideas.

This post has been edited by Swampy: 04 December 2011 - 23:19

[yoda]

Any excuse to post this video:



I still laugh at the "stimulus package" line.

[Swampy]

Oh, and on the subject of Perry (who is indeed finished for this race), even the Texas voters who dutifully line up to give him gargantuan majorities and approval ratings as governor think he'd be a dreadful president, as has been shown time and again in polls. Perry has, though, gained the endorsement of octogenarian, jackbooted, quixotic blackguard Joe Arpaio, and has recently stated that America must wean itself off foreign oil. (Domestic oil is fine.)