[Chinese Whisperer]

Even disciplining Sion before the second leg match V Cetic would not have helped, with Sion's reluctance to admit their mistake.
Not sure how this case is 'another Bosman' though. That was to do with players' rights, not registering your players before the Europa Cup qualifying round. This procedure should never change.
What next ... no players to be cup-tied because that is unfair on a team's ability to compete?

[HibeeJibee]

UEFA also have to fight it, regardless of whether Sion had a case or not (and they don't), for 3 simple reasons... First, resorting to law courts over such issues would quickly turn football into a farce, if it was not widely discouraged as it is now. Second, enabling Swiss clubs to have an advantage due to UEFA being based in Switzerland, would be patentialy unfair. Thirdly, and often forgotten in all this: if you can go to the courts, and the authorities reinstate you, then you win. Even if you later withdraw the case/it collapses/you reach settlement/ultimately lose, the football's been played, with you in it.

[WeeHectorPar]

T_S_A_R, on 09 October 2011 - 17:08, said:

a whole heap of wrong.

the issue here is whether or not uefa have broken swiss law in regard to sion's ability to trade. the swiss courts will decide this. the reason clubs normally can't use civil law is because fifa and uefa are based in switzerland and can ignore every court in the world apart from swiss ones.

clubs dont buy players. they pay other clubs to release them from fixed term contracts so they can then sign them to fixed term contract. that situation could arise in any industry where similar contracts are used.

no one in this country can be fired for being unable to do their job if you are an employee with full employment rights. there are processes employers must follow unless the employee has committed gross misconduct then you can be fired. footballers can also be fired for GM. your analogy about missing a penalty is stupid, do you think any footballer has a contract which specifiys minimum onfield performance?

the swiss courts will be the ones who decide this matter.

Neither Fifa nor Uefa has prevented Sion from trading. They are not preventing the club from fulfilling it's prime purpose which is to play football. The club plays its football in Switzerland and neither Association is preventing the club using players in any match in that country. Should Sion carry out illegal methods to win games in the Swiss League such as bribing other teams or officials then they would be subject to disciplinary action by the Swiss Federation, just as teams in Scotland accept penalties for going into administration. However the EL is a competition organised and run by Uefa and as such is subject to rules dictated by that organisation. Sion do not have a God-given right to play in the EL; they are accepted into it on condition that they comply with Uefa regulations. Teams have to give a list of players eligible for the competition before it begins. If Uefa accepted the players involved and then changed their mind then they deserve everything that the Swiss justice system can throw at them; however if Sion did not include these players on the list then they have no complaint.
As for you examples about employment rights I cannot comment on those in Britain as I have lived in France for many years but there are numerous examples of employees in Europe being sacked for the most trivial reasons. It is extremely easy to build up a case of GM; at least where I live it can cosist of a repetition of minor offences. Also remember that these are employees on fixed term contracts, not unlimited contracts.

[THE KING]

THE KING, on 21 September 2011 - 09:18, said:

I think employment law could be dragged into this and we could have a bosnan scenario regarding transfer windows and bans

well well well ...... http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/15352431.stm

[Highlandmagyar]

If this is successful, I would hope that Thistle appeal against the cheating 4-0 humping received by Spartak Brno back in the 1964 Fairs Cup and be parachuted into the Europa League.

Anyone from beyond the iron curtain always cheated!!!

[HibeeJibee]

THE KING, on 19 October 2011 - 06:19, said:

well well well ...... http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/15352431.stm

aye, because what Paul McBride (who seems to have a view on everything now?) says must be true. He's right in one respect, though - if clubs can just start getting their local court to over-turn the rules of football competitions, it will 'revolutionise' football, in that it will ruin it and destroy it. Sion pretty clearly broke the rules - but those rules (like almost every rule and every Law of the Game) could, in theory, be at odds with law more generally.

What's stopping a Swiss club eliminated from a tournament due to, say, a bad offside call or a missed handball getting their elimination overturned in court? Or going to court because their star striker got sent-off, and suspended from 2 vital games? And you can't have 1 field-of-play for the Swiss clubs but another for everyone else; so presumably every court in every country can rule against UEFA... who afterall conduct trade in all of those countries, and within the EU... and rule in favour of their local teams?