[itzdrk]

http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/14900965. stm

[craigkillie]

Where is the disgrace?

Sion cheated and were thrown out.

[GingerSaint]

Yes. FC Sion broke the rules and they knew they were doing it.

It gives us more opportunity to laugh at one half of the Old Firm as they get pumped in every game.

[itzdrk]

did they not submit a squad list which was approved and went on to win the tie

something funny is going on if you ask me

[TrueDiamond]

Craigkillie....

There is a court ruling today that suggested that Sion should be re-instated. So until it is established why UEFA ignored this ruling then we are all still in the dark about who is right and wrong.

Historically, UEFA have a record of ignoring legal findings in displays of arrogance. I suspect that this will be no different.

What is potentially more interesting, and more relevant is what could happen to Celtic FC if they play in this competition and ultimatley Sion are proved right. Is there recourse for suing Celtic FC for loss of earnings by Sion or would they be able to sue UEFA? Are Celtic too quick to accept the re-instatement without considering all the implications?

Interesting times ahead.

This post has been edited by TrueDiamond: 13 September 2011 - 15:53

[yoda]

It's definitely a Catholic conspiracy. In fact, that explains why the Czech Republic got that penalty. UEFA was making a stance against The Establishment that runs Scottish football against Celtic FC.

[Forest_Fifer]

GingerSaint, on 13 September 2011 - 15:39, said:

Yes. FC Sion broke the rules and they knew they were doing it.

It gives us more opportunity to laugh at one half of the Old Firm as they get pumped in every game.

This.

[craigkillie]

TrueDiamond, on 13 September 2011 - 15:51, said:

Craigkillie....

There is a court ruling today that suggested that Sion should be re-instated. So until it is established why UEFA ignored this ruling then we are all still in the dark about who is right and wrong.

Historically, UEFA have a record of ignoring legal findings in displays of arrogance. I suspect that this will be no different.

What is potentially more interesting, and more relevant is what could happen to Celtic FC if they play in this competition and ultimatley Sion are proved right. Is there recourse for suing Celtic FC for loss of earnings by Sion or would they be able to sue UEFA? Are Celtic too quick to accept the re-instatement without considering all the implications?

Interesting times ahead.

The Swiss court have no jurisdiction over the Europa League, and nor should they.

Sion had a transfer ban imposed on them by FIFA as a result of non-payment for a player. They flouted this and sign numerous players, who then featured in the game against Celtic. Sion knew that these players were not eligible to play, but selected them anyway.

It would be very difficult to sue Celtic for anything, because Celtic did not make the decision.

[itzdrk]

craigkillie, on 13 September 2011 - 15:57, said:

The Swiss court have no jurisdiction over the Europa League, and nor should they.

Sion had a transfer ban imposed on them by FIFA as a result of non-payment for a player. They flouted this and sign numerous players, who then featured in the game against Celtic. Sion knew that these players were not eligible to play, but selected them anyway.

It would be very difficult to sue Celtic for anything, because Celtic did not make the decision.

after submitting (and having approved) a squad list , they surely assumed they had the ok to play them

[itzdrk]

yoda, on 13 September 2011 - 15:55, said:

It's definitely a Catholic conspiracy. In fact, that explains why the Czech Republic got that penalty. UEFA was making a stance against The Establishment that runs Scottish football against Celtic FC.

hahaha

[No8.]

TrueDiamond, on 13 September 2011 - 15:51, said:

What is potentially more interesting, and more relevant is what could happen to Celtic FC if they play in this competition and ultimatley Sion are proved right. Is there recourse for suing Celtic FC for loss of earnings by Sion or would they be able to sue UEFA? Are Celtic too quick to accept the re-instatement without considering all the implications?

It was reported last week that FC Sion and individual FC Sion players would sue UEFA if the civil court case went their way. This is i can understand even though i don't agree with it but i fail to see how they could possibly sue celtic...Celtic are the innocent party in all this.

[Mik]

Yes.

Although, it has been handled extremely poor by UEFA.

[itzdrk]

No8., on 13 September 2011 - 16:24, said:

It was reported last week that FC Sion and individual FC Sion players would sue UEFA if the civil court case went their way. This is i can understand even though i don't agree with it but i fail to see how they could possibly sue celtic...Celtic are the innocent party in all this.

i think it would be for loss of gate receits,tv money & win/draw bonus(doubtfull)

[Michael W]

TrueDiamond, on 13 September 2011 - 15:51, said:

Craigkillie....

There is a court ruling today that suggested that Sion should be re-instated. So until it is established why UEFA ignored this ruling then we are all still in the dark about who is right and wrong.

Historically, UEFA have a record of ignoring legal findings in displays of arrogance. I suspect that this will be no different.

What is potentially more interesting, and more relevant is what could happen to Celtic FC if they play in this competition and ultimatley Sion are proved right. Is there recourse for suing Celtic FC for loss of earnings by Sion or would they be able to sue UEFA? Are Celtic too quick to accept the re-instatement without considering all the implications?

Interesting times ahead.

Yes, I'm sure the findings of a Swiss Civil court who have no jurisdiction are perfectly relevant in this instance. Thankfully, UEFA have brushed those findings aside for the nonsense that they are.

If they want to appeal it, they should go through CAS. I believe they are already going through with this appeal, but have absolutely no idea what will happen as there is next to no chance CAS can reach a decision before Celtic play Athletico. They've wasted their own time by going through the Swiss civil courts.

This wasn't a genuine mistake; they deliberately and knowingly flouted the rules, and it's within the scope of UEFA's powers to put them out the competition for doing so. Correct decision in my book.

[Lordofthewing]

Michael W, on 13 September 2011 - 16:39, said:

Yes, I'm sure the findings of a Swiss Civil court who have no jurisdiction are perfectly relevant in this instance. Thankfully, UEFA have brushed those findings aside for the nonsense that they are.

If they want to appeal it, they should go through CAS. I believe they are already going through with this appeal, but have absolutely no idea what will happen as there is next to no chance CAS can reach a decision before Celtic play Athletico. They've wasted their own time by going through the Swiss civil courts.

This wasn't a genuine mistake; they deliberately and knowingly flouted the rules, and it's within the scope of UEFA's powers to put them out the competition for doing so. Correct decision in my book.

Didn't Sion only pursue this course of action as it was the only bunch who hadn't pretty much told them to fuck off?

Anyway, on the Atletico match itself, I think we'll be completely raped , and there'll be an absolute deluge of GIRFUY messages on here, and based on our well-documented shitness in away matches in Europe, I reckon it'll be at least 3-0, unless the defence actually, y'know... defends properly? Up front (not "up top," I fucking detest that phrase!) I reckon we'll probably, as others have said in the "2 cheeks" forum, go with Samaras as a lone striker, though I ain't sure who'll support from midfield if anything launched forward actually sticks (I think they'll be pinned too far back to actually get over the halfway line tbh). Long night ahead for us, and a probable footballing lesson into the bargain (I just hope we actually learn something from it).

This post has been edited by Lordofthewing: 13 September 2011 - 17:29

[mrk1916]

Uefa done the right thing.


You can't ignore the rules.

In saying that we defo dont deserve to be in the competion
but aint going to moan about the ruling.

[itzdrk]

sion now want platini arrested

a step too far but hillarious and fantastic

[The OP]

Think the best solution would be if we played all the home games and Sion played all the aways.

[itzdrk]

The OP, on 13 September 2011 - 18:32, said:

Think the best solution would be if we played all the home games and Sion played all the aways.

why should celtic get to play any?

[The OP]

itzdrk, on 13 September 2011 - 18:34, said:

why should celtic get to play any?

[EdTheDuck]

Christian Constantin, the Sion president, would appear to be as mad as a box of frogs, so I expect this shite to run and run and end up in some hideous Bosmanesque legal mess

The right decision, but sincerely hope the 6 games are as thigh slappingly hilarious as I expect them to be

[Hampden Diehard]

Sion have been playing these players in their domestic league and the rest of the Swiss sides are crapping themselves that all of them might be banned from Europe as a punishment for their FA basically letting the loon in charge of Sion get away with challenging the might of UEFA and ignoring their rulings. This yin will indeed run and run.

A club side taking on their own country's FA - wouldn't happen in Scotland.

This post has been edited by Hampden Diehard: 13 September 2011 - 20:26

[Supras]

I dislike Celtic as much as the next man, but this case was clear cut from the very start.

Sion cheated and were thrown out, Celtic have every right to be reinstated.

The injustice is the timing of the decision and putting Celtic in pot 4 instead of pot 2.

This post has been edited by Supras: 13 September 2011 - 20:36

[WaffenThinMint]

yoda, on 13 September 2011 - 15:55, said:

It's definitely a Catholic conspiracy. In fact, that explains why the Czech Republic got that penalty. UEFA was making a stance against The Establishment that runs Scottish football against Celtic FC.

Well at least no one can claim it was a Sionist conspiracy.

I'll get my coat...

[Busta Nut]

I tghink Sion should have been kicked out, but not replaced by Celtic