[chico]

Aurora Borealis, on 18 August 2011 - 23:30, said:

Aye?

http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/14568630.stm

Hearts may not have done Scotland proud on the park tonight, but our support certainly did.

He needed something to praise there was f**k all on the pitch he could have complemented.

Like I said you jambos fully deserved it.

[FauldhouseJambo]

Don't think we can be described as an embarrassment tbh. Although we were pretty poor on the night Spurs were breathtaking at times, the football they played was amazing. Watching every one of their players pinging crossfield balls with ease and looking so assured in every area of the park was pretty impressive to watch. That was probably the strongest line up they could have put out, and even Livermore would stroll into the old firm's midfield. This is a team who got to the Champions league quarter final and have only added a sub goalie from that, so getting pumped off a team who are pretty close to competing for the best league in the world doesn't sound as bad as it may have looked.

[Buddie Holly]

Aurora Borealis, on 18 August 2011 - 23:30, said:

Aye?

http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/14568630.stm

Hearts may not have done Scotland proud on the park tonight, but our support certainly did.

is harrys middle name "patronising"?

it'll probably turn out that it was all that pesky st mirrens fault again

[Galajambo]

Cube, on 18 August 2011 - 23:30, said:

Problem?

[phanni tikklar]

Ach well. What's the biggest home defeat in our european history!!!!

I can't make my mind up If spurs were v good. Or we made them look v good I suppose a mixture of both

How rangers and Celtic would get on I'm not sure. But every other SPL team would get gubbed.

Spurs. League earnings last year 68m.

Champions league earnings 39m.

Total 107 million.

Hearts league earnings 1m

European earnings 0m

Total 1m.

[Aurora Borealis]

And by the way the embarrassing thing is actually all the throbbers saying "f**k the co-efficient, I hope they all get pumped" and now most are coming out with this utter shite?

Cringe-worthy.

[LinkinFighter]

Aurora Borealis, on 19 August 2011 - 00:35, said:

And by the way the embarrassing thing is actually all the throbbers saying "f**k the co-efficient, I hope they all get pumped" and now most are coming out with this utter shite?

Cringe-worthy.

You missed this from your post.

[ayrmad]

Anyone who thinks any Scottish club can compete with any of the top EPL teams is a nugget, what happened to our mighty champions when they played Urethra?


































As the name suggests the diddies pished all over them, Spurs were running riot in last seasons CL against some far better teams than anything we have.

Fair play to the Jambos fans for acknowledging the class of Spurs and their players tonight.

[chico]

Hearts - Shaming Scottish Football.

[the jambo-rocker]

Cube, on 18 August 2011 - 20:11, said:

Hearts without a doubt tonight. This Spurs team aint great its just hearts have been beyond shocking.

You clearly never watched the game then. We pish, this spurs weren't even firing on all cylinders and they were still far and away the best side I've seen against us in a competitive match.

craigkillie, on 18 August 2011 - 20:35, said:

I would say that 9 of those players would be considered first teamers. Stick Huddlestone and Modric/Sandro in the middle of the park, and you've got their strongest line-up.

I would probably have gallas in there for kaboul, but you're pretty much spot on. Livermore and Kranjcar in the middle were something else. I don't even want to imagine what would have happened if they had a full strength line up out against us.

[honeyboy edwards]

I've been saying for a while now....every SPL club would struggle to be even mid table in the Chamionship.

Gone are the days of any English club fearing a visit to Scotland.

[honeyboy edwards]

chico, on 19 August 2011 - 06:29, said:

Hearts - Shaming Scottish Football.

Hearts never shamed Scottish football

The SPL has shamed Scottish football. If the penny was ever going to drop with Doncaster &Co, then last night was the night. If they dont wake up this morning and realize that things are not working and change is needed, then we are doomed.

[CALDERON]

We all fully expected Hearts to get beat over the two legs, but I was really looking forward to a good match last night.

Hearts were a disgrace. Fucking terrible.

[chico]

honeyboy edwards, on 19 August 2011 - 06:52, said:

Hearts never shamed Scottish football

The SPL has shamed Scottish football. If the penny was ever going to drop with Doncaster &Co, then last night was the night. If they dont wake up this morning and realize that things are not working and change is needed, then we are doomed.

A 14/16/18 team league wouldn't have made a difference.

Hearts were wrong in terms of lineup, tactics and how they approached the game.

Hearts are an embarrassment.

[Galajambo]

chico, on 19 August 2011 - 06:29, said:

Hearts - Shaming Scottish Football.

And you think St Mirren could do any better?

First half I agree that we stood off them far too much and let them play, we were almost like rabbits caught in headlights, it was pish poor from us, and hopefully it will have wakened Sergio up as far as standing off teams and letting them play, because we're nowhere near good enough to allow teams to do that, so we definitely could have played more of a part in that.

On the other side of the coin however, Spurs didn't even get out of second gear last night, and if they needed to raise their game, then they had plenty in reserve, the could have easily taken 5 off us even if we played a lot better than we did mate, and actually being at the game and watching their movement and pace off the ball was a joy to see, like I said in another post, they are without any shadow of a doubt the best side I've ever seen at Tynecastle and would have thrashed anyone last night, it took Real Madrid to stop them last season in the QF's of the CL, I'm not sure why anyone was expecting a diddy club to turn them over last night to be honest, and most Jambos I know had money on Spurs to fund a trip to London next week

[baillieinleeds]

I've been getting loads of texts from Leeds supporting mates, totally ripping the piss. I'm not a Hearts fan, but i do feel that as a nation, we have serious problems.

[the jambo-rocker]

Hearts were an embarrassment to themselves and nobody else.

The SPL does a perfectly good job of embarrassing scottish football by their own accord.

[honeyboy edwards]

chico, on 19 August 2011 - 07:39, said:

A 14/16/18 team league wouldn't have made a difference.

Hearts were wrong in terms of lineup, tactics and how they approached the game.

Hearts are an embarrassment.

Any SPL team would have got a new hole ripped by Spurs last night.

The gap is huge between the two leagues, gone are the days of Dundee Utd giving Man Utd a game, Rangers skelping Leeds.

Spurs were in second gear and this could easily be a double figure aggregate score.

It wouldn't matter what tactics, line up, manager that Hearts put out, the result would have been the same.

[Galajambo]

the jambo-rocker, on 19 August 2011 - 08:08, said:

Hearts were an embarrassment to themselves and nobody else.

The SPL does a perfectly good job of embarrassing scottish football by their own accord.

We're such an embarrassment to Scottish football that we're still the only side to get through a round of any kind in this years competitions, that says a lot for the rest

[jagfox]

baillieinleeds, on 19 August 2011 - 08:01, said:

I've been getting loads of texts from Leeds supporting mates, totally ripping the piss. I'm not a Hearts fan, but i do feel that as a nation, we have serious problems.

My mate is a Leeds fan, I usually shut him up by texting him their latest score or telling him to look at the championship league table.

This post has been edited by jagfox: 19 August 2011 - 08:44

[baillieinleeds]

jagfox, on 19 August 2011 - 08:43, said:

My mate is a Leeds fan, I usually shut him up by texting him their latest score or telling him to look at the championship league table.

I know, Leeds are fucking honking. I laugh like f**k when i see the thousands that descend upon Elland road full of expectation, only to come away pissed off with another defeat. Piss poor players, piss poor manager, need i go on

[Monkey Tennis]

I thought Hearts would lose last night and end up losing the tie by quite a big margin over the two legs. '

0-5 at home came as a bit of a mild surprise, but really not the huge shock, some reactions here suggest.

Even the stuff about England having ten times our population, misses the point. In the club game, Spurs can plunder the best of the world market, while even the better Scottish players won't now be at a club like Hearts.
Despite lazy "Battle of Britain" stuff still getting trotted out, this was never likely to be as close as some have been.
Celtic against Stoke might have been less of a mismatch, but here we were talking about a non-OF side against as strong an EPL side as you can get at this stage of the Europa thingy.

Results like last night's just persuade me that we should really stop agonising over how our clubs do in Europe. European club competitions used to be good, but they and the biggest domestic leagues have been carved up in such a way as to ensure that European tournaments are parties to which we've not been invited.

I know my brand of isolationism can be attacked as short sighted, but comparing our clubs to English ones is now entirely redundant.
Their teams are much better than ours because their players are much better than ours because their clubs can afford to pay them much more - it really is absolutely that simple. I'd like our domestic game to be more interesting and I want good Scottish players to be produced for the sake of the national team.
What happened last night however, was just that a very rich club gubbed a much poorer one. I don't see what other conclusions can be drawn.

This post has been edited by Monkey Tennis: 19 August 2011 - 10:06

[jester]

phanni tikklar, on 19 August 2011 - 00:00, said:

Ach well. What's the biggest home defeat in our european history!!!!

I suppose you still have your biggest ever away defeat to look forward to as well

[Galajambo]

Monkey Tennis, on 19 August 2011 - 09:13, said:

I thought Hearts would lose last night and end up losing the tie by quite a big margin over the two legs. '

0-5 at home came as a bit of a mild surprise, but really not the huge shock, some reactions here suggest.

Even the stuff about England having ten times our population, misses the point. In the club game, Spurs can plunder the best of the world market, while even the better Scottish players won't now be at a club like Hearts.
Despite lazy "Battle of Britain" stuff still getting trotted out, this was never likely to be as close as some have been.
Celtic against Stoke might have been less of a mismatch, but here we were talking about a non-OF side against as strong an EPL side as you can get at this stage of the Europa thingy.

Results like last night's just persuade me that we should really stop agonising over how our clubs do in Europe. European club competitions used to be good, but they and the biggest domestic leagues have been carved up in such a way as to ensure that European tournaments are parties to which we've not been invited.

I know my brand of isolationism can be attacked as short sighted, but comparing our clubs to English ones is now entirely redundant.
Their clubs are much better than ours because their players are much better than our because their clubs can afford to pay them much more - it really is absolutely that simple. I'd like our domestic game to be more interesting and I want good Scottish players to be produced for the sake of the national team.
What happened last night however, was just that a very rich club gubbed a much poorer one. I don't see what other conclusions can be drawn.

This is a very good post, and completely nails it for me.

The seeding for Europe these days means that the smaller clubs are rarely going to get into the Europa League group stages, Hearts and Aberdeen have both been there before, but I reckon it will be a very long time before anyone outside the Old Firm gets there again due to being unseeded, even the Old Firm who were both seeded are really struggling in their ties, that's how hopeless we are as a nation right now. Football in general is knackered, the rich keep on getting richer, and the poor just keep on getting poorer, it's actually becoming very boring now.

[betting competition]

Aurora Borealis, on 18 August 2011 - 22:05, said:

Yeah because any other Scottish club would of done far better lmfao.

Mongoloids.

Aberdeen drawn with Bayern a side that has spent more than Spurs. Hearts was a shambles last night - no doubt about that. Fair enough the gulf is pretty big but you should have been better organised and tough to beat but sadly you wasn't.