[jagfox]

No room here clyde fans
I would consider Scotstoun for Thistle, total wrong part of the city for traditional Clyde support, but ironically near the Clyde so who knows? I'd probably go to some games there. Largely residential area with decent catchment area. Stranger things have happened.

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[Snake Plissken]

Surely moving to Scotstoun from Broadwood would just mean paying rent to a different landlord.

The whole point is moving to a stadium that we own or can at least generate income from.

[clyde66]

Snake Plissken, on 28 May 2011 - 11:11, said:

Surely moving to Scotstoun from Broadwood would just mean paying rent to a different landlord.

The whole point is moving to a stadium that we own or can at least generate income from.

Having seen what has happened to the club since its move its got to get back to Glasgow - and to near its roots. It will die without a run, its now a club without a soul. The east end is being rebuilt just now, Clyde can offer facilites (plastic pitch available for local sides at low rental, conf. facilities) if the right ground is built.

As for Cumbernauld, it wont ever work. Clyde were promised so much when they moved in. NLC took over the running of the stadium and are still doing all they can to destroy the club.

[Mushroom]

clyde66, on 28 May 2011 - 12:22, said:

As for Cumbernauld, it wont ever work. Clyde were promised so much when they moved in. NLC took over the running of the stadium and are still doing all they can to destroy the club.

[broken record]The crowds in the final years at Shawfield were around 600 I believe. Last year, the average crowd - whilst finishing bottom of division 3 (due to previous financial stupidity) were 695. Cumbernauld has been a success.[/broken record]

This post has been edited by Mushroom: 28 May 2011 - 13:27

[clyde66]

Mushroom, on 28 May 2011 - 13:24, said:

[broken record]The crowds in the final years at Shawfield were around 600 I believe. Last year, the average crowd - whilst finishing bottom of division 3 (due to previous financial stupidity) were 695. Cumbernauld has been a success.[/broken record]

You cannot use previous seasons attendances. How many turned up when on the verge of the SFL, how many turned up after beating Celtic. The fact is that in the modern sense Cumbernauld has failed. Attendances at Hampden and Firhill show the support Clyde have within in Glasgow. Clyde need to return home, with a stadium they either own or a stadium that they are equal partners in (e.g. Part of a community involvement with a council). Broadwood will kill Clyde and Cumbernauld is not going to work either.

[Snake Plissken]

We were getting over a thousand at the start of the season due to the club at last making an effort to connect to the local community,this dropped off due to the awful team on the park,also our average attendence would have been much higher if we had not had so many saturday games postponed because of the weather.

I think finding an alternative site in Cumbernauld is the best option allied with the club continuing to promote the club in the town !

[Pride Of The Clyde]

Mushroom, on 28 May 2011 - 13:24, said:

[broken record]The crowds in the final years at Shawfield were around 600 I believe. Last year, the average crowd - whilst finishing bottom of division 3 (due to previous financial stupidity) were 695. Cumbernauld has been a success.[/broken record]

Everyone always compares the last years at Shawfield's attendances with what we get now in Cumbernauld. You don't need to go back too far when we were leading the 1st division and we were only attracting on average 1000-1200 or so home fans. Against better teams we could attract better than that at Shawfield and if we were in that position again, on the verge of SPL football we would attract better numbers nearer our roots than we ever could or ever will in this soulless depressing place we are in at the moment.
The sooner we get out of NL the better, afaic.

The only reason we were anywhere near 695 was because of the excellent ST deal, Cumbernauld has been a disaster.

This post has been edited by Pride Of The Clyde: 28 May 2011 - 15:41

[clyde til we die]

Mushroom, on 28 May 2011 - 13:24, said:

[broken record]The crowds in the final years at Shawfield were around 600 I believe. Last year, the average crowd - whilst finishing bottom of division 3 (due to previous financial stupidity) were 695. Cumbernauld has been a success.[/broken record]

Take your broken record and piss off then, Cumbernauld/Broadwood is killing our club.

[HibeeJibee]

It seems clear the fanbase is split... many want to go back to Glasgow, many say they must stay in Cumbernauld, a few call for East Kilbride. Does the club have a strategy, or is it similarly "divided"...?

[David W]

The idea that we have all of these Glasgow fans who refuse to trek the 25 minutes out to Broadwood but will come flooding back in droves if we return to Glasgow doesn't sit well with me.

Glasgow holds no hope for us. Build a stadium in the "traditional heartlands" and you'll be in the shadow of the new, shiny, 60000 seater Celtic Park. Strolling back in there 25 years after leaving would be crazy. Combine the ever increasing OF machines with the football on television and all of the attractions of a big city and who under the age of 40 exactly is going to be watching us? Just look at Partick Thistle's scary drop in attendances for evidence of that and they've actually been in Glasgow over that time period.

Cumbernauld has been a disaster but there's more potential for growth out there than there is back in Glasgow. Like I said earlier, somewhere like East Kilbride might see us gain a few locals early on but the best thing to do is stay where we are and build on the few feeble roots that we have in place.

In summary though, we're gubbed whatever happens. HibeeJibee can tell us a story of rising attendances and so on but ourselves, Airdrie, Thistle, Hamilton are all on downward spirals due to our location. To be honest, other than family ties I'd struggle to see any reason why as a youngster you'd go and watch any of those sides.

[SoapMactavish]

Bogston.

[Bully Wee Villa]

What about a groundshare with Celtic? Close to our traditional home, and our 700 fans would have plenty of room!

[Shawfield Stallion]

I've tried to bite my tongue thus far, but suggestions of a move back to Glasgow are fucking ridiculous. Glaswegians stopped giving a shit about Clyde some time in the 70's and I wish the dewy-eyed selective memory brigade would just accept this. We don't have a future in Glasgow and we're doing fine in Cumbernauld - it's the stadium that's the problem, not the actual area.

Fuxake

[ScottR96]

Spot on, SS.

No matter where Clyde move to we're not going to get better crowds. Does anyone know why? Because we are shit. Clyde have a support of around 700 who will attend games no matter where Clyde play and no matter how bad we play. Unfortunately, having the worst team in Scotland as your local team isn't going to get bums on seats.

[ScottR96]

There yeez fuckin' go.

[Pride Of The Clyde]

ScottR96, on 29 May 2011 - 20:44, said:

Spot on, SS.

No matter where Clyde move to we're not going to get better crowds. Does anyone know why? Because we are shit. Clyde have a support of around 700 who will attend games no matter where Clyde play and no matter how bad we play. Unfortunately, having the worst team in Scotland as your local team isn't going to get bums on seats.

Being top of the 1st division didn't get bums on seats either, more often than not if we got a decent crowd in we were often outnumbered by the oppositions fans.
Broadwood is undeniably our biggest problem, staying in Cumbernauld our crowds are not going to improve that we do know, moving to a new area at least gives us some hope because the people of Cumbernauld have made it quite clear they are not interested.

[peternapper]

Shawfield Stallion, on 29 May 2011 - 20:38, said:

I've tried to bite my tongue thus far, but suggestions of a move back to Glasgow are fucking ridiculous. Glaswegians stopped giving a shit about Clyde some time in the 70's and I wish the dewy-eyed selective memory brigade would just accept this. We don't have a future in Glasgow and we're doing fine in Cumbernauld - it's the stadium that's the problem, not the actual area.

Fuxake

Trying to be sensible about your problem, what is going to happen to the ground if you move? You would think it would be better for the council to have tennants of some sort rather than a non earning rental property on their books. You would think some sort of comprimise could be reached. It may not be ideal for supporters making the 15-25 minute trip from the city but having been there in the past, apart from being too big for the clubs present position its handy enough to get to after travelling 100+ miles too.

[Milevskiy]

peternapper, on 29 May 2011 - 22:17, said:

Trying to be sensible about your problem, what is going to happen to the ground if you move? You would think it would be better for the council to have tennants of some sort rather than a non earning rental property on their books. You would think some sort of comprimise could be reached. It may not be ideal for supporters making the 15-25 minute trip from the city but having been there in the past, apart from being too big for the clubs present position its handy enough to get to after travelling 100+ miles too.

That'd up to them, not our problem. They'd probably knock it down and build a third Cumbernauld Tesco or some shit.

[peternapper]

Milevskiy, on 29 May 2011 - 22:26, said:

That'd up to them, not our problem. They'd probably knock it down and build a third Cumbernauld Tesco or some shit.

Fair enough it just seems to be a bit of a waste of what is a decent facilty.

[sydney]

Do some of the people suggesting a move back to Clyde's "roots" actually know what it was like before we left Shawfield ? I remember regularly playing in front of crowds of 400-500. The locals didn't give a toss about us then, so why would they now ? Let it go- it's not going to happen.
I actually have a memory about a game we played against Forfar in a season we got promoted in 1981-82 (don't ask me why, but just some things stick in your mind for some reason). Clyde were top and Forfar were also doing well. There was a bigger than usual crowd that day when a certain Pat Nevin scored a last minute equaliser for Clyde. I actually remember the crowd that day as being less than 700 and we thought it was a good turnout ! Broadwood has not been good, but it has been better than latter day Shawfield.

[Shawfield Stallion]

peternapper, on 29 May 2011 - 22:43, said:

Fair enough it just seems to be a bit of a waste of what is a decent facilty.

The most plausable theory I've heard so far (can't remember if it was from a conversation or on the OS - might've been in this thread actually) is that the council will relocate a school to where Broadwood is now, retaining the gym and all of the 7 a-side pitches, and then sell the recently vacated school to housing developers

[Adam]

Like others have stated, there is no chance/point in us moving back to Rutherglen or anywhere else in Glasgow. I'm no expert in property buying, but I'm willing to guess with the Commonwealth games happening in this area in three years, there isn't a massive amount of free land going and even if there is, it is going to cost a fortune.

I actually couldn't give a shit where we end up if I'm honest. Can't remember who posted it but we do have a core support of around 600/700 fans who, like me, will follow the team regardless of what happens on and off the pitch. If we move elsewhere then yeah, crowds will improve, but it almost certainly will not last and we will end up with the same number of fans as we have just now.

Whatever will be, will be...

This post has been edited by Adam: 29 May 2011 - 23:38

[David W]

Shawfield Stallion, on 29 May 2011 - 23:06, said:

The most plausable theory I've heard so far (can't remember if it was from a conversation or on the OS - might've been in this thread actually) is that the council will relocate a school to where Broadwood is now, retaining the gym and all of the 7 a-side pitches, and then sell the recently vacated school to housing developers

It was on P&B, sure it was "Sergeant Wilson" who posted it.

[C. Muir]

Adam, on 29 May 2011 - 23:25, said:

Wherever we'll be, will be...

We're going to Wembley.

[Adam]

C. Muir, on 29 May 2011 - 23:34, said:

We're going to Wembley.

No idea how I got the words messed up there...