[qos_75]

Well Raith & the Pars have one and of course the last few match threads have gone off on a tangent regarding our off field affairs. For that reason this is probably as good a thread as any to air your views and there is much to discuss.

With Queens looking for a completely new squad and management team (likely part-time) next season there are some uncertain times ahead at Palmerston. At the moment the team look to have chucked it and I suppose you can't really blame them. Players that have given their all look to have been treated with poorly and questions are being asked of our Chairman and board.

Anyway chart the twist and turns here.

[Dougie Mills]

Should we go down the part-time route next season (which looks a certainty) i hope the BOD aren't budgeting on crowds of anything over 1000 because at £17 a game - the already pissed off Dumfriesshire public certainly aren't going to turn up in decent numbers!

[Andy C]

I know that it's horrible what is going on at the club but from a purely business perspective, will it not work out quite well in the long run by going part time and offering new players much reduced wages in comparison to what some of the current squad are on?

Any light at the end of the tunnel?

[MB]

Andy C, on 16 April 2011 - 18:02, said:

I know that it's horrible what is going on at the club but from a purely business perspective, will it not work out quite well in the long run by going part time and offering new players much reduced wages in comparison to what some of the current squad are on?

Hopefully. Unfortunately, I think most Queens fans can all see an era of relative success coming to an abrupt and shambolic end.

Andy C, on 16 April 2011 - 18:02, said:

Any light at the end of the tunnel?

Not yet.

Edited to say that we do have a crop of good U19 players that may play a key role in the future of the club. That has to be the way to go.

This post has been edited by MB: 16 April 2011 - 18:08

[the gub]

Wouldn't worry too much, most of first will be part time within 2 years, it's the only way to make the figures work. If anyone wants to dispute this feel free, but as nearly all of the teams in that division are technically bust, very hard to think otherwise.

[Tam]

MB, on 16 April 2011 - 18:07, said:

Hopefully. Unfortunately, I think most Queens fans can all see an era of relative success coming to an abrupt and shambolic end.


Not yet.

Edited to say that we do have a crop of good U19 players that may play a key role in the future of the club. That has to be the way to go.

Agree with MB's analysis. Can't blame the players given the limbo that most find themselves in. I can see the remaining games being a severe trial of the fans' patience. Fortunately we can't round off the season with a play-off defeat. A couple of draws v the Binos may have been what saved us.

I can see next season being a long hard struggle too for Neil Scally and some kids.

[kirkyblue2]

The players should be fined for underperforming, maybe that would shake them up a bit.

[Monkey Tennis]

Good to have our own thread.

I've got sod all to say, but it's nice to have a place to say it in.

[kirkyblue2]

Monkey Tennis, on 16 April 2011 - 19:23, said:

Good to have our own thread.

I've got sod all to say, but it's nice to have a place to say it in.

Davie Rae should join in, he's got sod all to say too.

[o Ginja Ninja o]

I went to the game today and it was dire. I was up playing in Dunfermline with Dumfries Town Band and Queens just happened to be playing there. I never expected a win but nor did I expect to get thrashed 6-1. We left with about 10 mins left it was that bad.

[BIGdavieT]

I'm not trying to deflect deserved criticism from the board, but I do feel quite hurt by the team's last 3 performances.

Even if they know they are leaving, they owe it to the club and fans who have been paying their wages to at least put a decent shift in until the end of the season.

The lack of fight at the cup final was extremely embarrassing, especially with so many floaters there.

But to react in the manner we have is verging on unforgiveable. I never thought I would say this but I'm struggling to find the motivation to even go and see these players off at the final game.

I know that the overall mess has been created by the board, but these players are privileged enough to have been paid full time (and decent in many cases) wages for playing football, and this is how professional they act towards the fans.

It's disgraceful.

[FC_1919]

Did Sandra Brown really say on Open All Mic's, that ALL contract will be allowed to expire?

[offshorebairn]

Thought I had clicked on a Falkirk topic for a bit!!!!
You could substitute any other 1st Div teams name for QoTS, as there will be a chilly wind blowing through the squads come the end of May.

[Aberdeen Cowden]

Heard the interview with Queen's manager on the way up the road. The guy was devastated and said the chairman wouldn't speak to any of the players or management.Only three players to keep their jobs.
What a way to treat your employees!

[Distant Doonhamer]

Aberdeen Cowden, on 16 April 2011 - 21:15, said:

Heard the interview with Queen's manager on the way up the road. The guy was devastated and said the chairman wouldn't speak to any of the players or management.Only three players to keep their jobs.
What a way to treat your employees!

Anyone have a link to the interview. Sounds grim.

[cowdenbeath]

Aberdeen Cowden, on 16 April 2011 - 21:15, said:

Heard the interview with Queen's manager on the way up the road. The guy was devastated and said the chairman wouldn't speak to any of the players or management.Only three players to keep their jobs.
What a way to treat your employees!

I can understand them getting rid of players if they are wanting to cut back due to finance, but if you are going to get rid of them you should at least have the balls to speak to the people concerned.

[QosLoyal]

cowdenbeath, on 16 April 2011 - 21:21, said:

I can understand them getting rid of players if they are wanting to cut back due to finance, but if you are going to get rid of them you should at least have the balls to speak to the people concerned.

Correct. unfortunately our chairman has got a spine made of jelly.

[third lanark]

Given that Chisholm is a free agent how would QOS fans think about him possibly coming back as Manager?
He will also no doubt be linked with my club as well, personalyy I hope he doesnt get near Firhill but curious to see if fans would be happy to see him replace Brannigan?

[Monkey Tennis]

third lanark, on 16 April 2011 - 21:32, said:

Given that Chisholm is a free agent how would QOS fans think about him possibly coming back as Manager?
He will also no doubt be linked with my club as well, personalyy I hope he doesnt get near Firhill but curious to see if fans would be happy to see him replace Brannigan?

There's no chance of it happening, but if it were to, it would make me (and I'd imagine, most others) desperately unhappy.

[MB]

Monkey Tennis, on 16 April 2011 - 21:44, said:

There's no chance of it happening, but if it were to, it would make me (and I'd imagine, most others) desperately unhappy.

That's an understatement.

[FC_1919]

Doubt I would be back if Chisholm rocked up with his decidedly average self!

[qos_75]

FC_1919, on 16 April 2011 - 21:49, said:

Doubt I would be back if Chisholm rocked up with his decidedly average self!

I don't think we can afford him now anyway. Think cheaper than cheap.

This post has been edited by qos_75: 16 April 2011 - 22:15

[offshorebairn]

Yogi?, may not be the 'big' move down south he envisaged though!but it's heading in the right direction.

This post has been edited by offshorebairn: 16 April 2011 - 22:05

[Distant Doonhamer]

FC_1919, on 16 April 2011 - 21:49, said:

Doubt I would be back if Chisholm rocked up with his decidedly average self!

Easy to say TBH. I don`t want Chisholm back but his appointment wouldn`t mean I wouldn`t go at the start of a new season. A few decent results with whoever takes over and KB will be forgotten.

[Skyline Drifter]

cowdenbeath, on 16 April 2011 - 21:21, said:

I can understand them getting rid of players if they are wanting to cut back due to finance, but if you are going to get rid of them you should at least have the balls to speak to the people concerned.

Really? Have Cowden? Has any team in this division told their "Out of Contract" players whether they will be getting new deals next season or not? I'd be surprised if they have.

I have to say of all the things that are getting moaned about at the moment this is the issue that surprises me most. I understand why people think the manager's position should be sorted out. I wouldn't disagree. I understand why people want to criticise Davie or the Board's handling of the finances and the spat with the Standard this week. Lord knows they could have been handled much better. I don't understand why it's suddenly the crime of the century to have a pile of players who are out of contract at the end of the season who don't know yet whether they will get a new deal or not?

I can't remember out of contract players ever being told before the season was dead (which it only was after today) and seldom before the last ball is kicked. Brannigan himself didn't tell ANY of the out of contract players last season whether they would be offered anything until after the season was finished. Neither did Chisholm, McCall or Connolly before him (I think Iain Scott actually did). Why it's some crime not to do so now I have no idea? Such is the way in football. They all sign fixed term contracts and they run out. All that's different with us this season is that we don't actually have many signed up beyond the end of this season (there are three first team squad members under contract for next year). However, whether we have three, eight, ten or fourteen I fail to see what odds it makes to those who aren't signed up. If footballers are really unhappy with having contracts that are set to run out and with an uncertain future then I'd suggest they are in the wrong career.

This post has been edited by Skyline Drifter: 16 April 2011 - 22:21