[malky1982]

kickingking, on 06 April 2011 - 20:13, said:

Just the 43 goals for speedy this season and 9 assists!

Would have been 10 assists if he squared il last night!!!

[kickingking]

malky1982, on 06 April 2011 - 20:37, said:

Would have been 10 assists if he squared il last night!!!

Greedy wee bugger eh!!

[monthedale]

kickingking, on 06 April 2011 - 20:13, said:

Just the 43 goals for speedy this season and 9 assists!

A fantastic return and he is undoubtedly the best striker/player in Border Am at the moment. Fail to see how this is relevant to my point though.

[tommytank]

monthedale, on 06 April 2011 - 21:18, said:

A fantastic return and he is undoubtedly the best striker/player in Border Am at the moment. Fail to see how this is relevant to my point though.

It's a thread about the best players in the border am, you mentioned Grant Wilson's scoring exploits and he merely compared that to the top scorer in the top league - fairly relevant. On another point, we all know that Forsyth is one of the best players in the league but you should really start comparing him to other centre mid's instead of Moffat as I'm sure he plays there these days and not at the back. He also lacks what little pace he used to have which would make him an easy target for the likes of speedy if he was to drop back there...

[monthedale]

tommytank, on 06 April 2011 - 21:39, said:

It's a thread about the best players in the border am, you mentioned Grant Wilson's scoring exploits and he merely compared that to the top scorer in the top league - fairly relevant. On another point, we all know that Forsyth is one of the best players in the league but you should really start comparing him to other centre mid's instead of Moffat as I'm sure he plays there these days and not at the back. He also lacks what little pace he used to have which would make him an easy target for the likes of speedy if he was to drop back there...

I mentioned Grant's involvement in all 3 goals the other night in response to people saying he wasn't good enough to play at a higher level. Speedy's record, which is there for everyone to see as a ridiculously good return with so many games still to play, doesn't really have anything to do with that!

[Allbeit86]

tommytank, on 06 April 2011 - 21:39, said:

It's a thread about the best players in the border am, you mentioned Grant Wilson's scoring exploits and he merely compared that to the top scorer in the top league - fairly relevant. On another point, we all know that Forsyth is one of the best players in the league but you should really start comparing him to other centre mid's instead of Moffat as I'm sure he plays there these days and not at the back. He also lacks what little pace he used to have which would make him an easy target for the likes of speedy if he was to drop back there...

Was speaking to one of the players there and apparently it's not only people looking in from the outside that think Forsyth would be more suited at centre half. Gregg Walter sits on the bench, he's a better centre mid than Forsyth! All I know is Speedy would certainly rip the old boy they have at the back a new arsehole!

[kickingking]

monthedale, on 06 April 2011 - 21:18, said:

A fantastic return and he is undoubtedly the best striker/player in Border Am at the moment. Fail to see how this is relevant to my point though.

In the threads you have picked up, was Grant Wilson mentioned?!

[monthedale]

kickingking, on 07 April 2011 - 07:58, said:

In the threads you have picked up, was Grant Wilson mentioned?!

The posts that I picked up were in response to me mentioning 6 players that i thought could make the step up. They all disagreed with me, either stating that they couldn't, or that only 2/3 could.

[kickingking]

monthedale, on 07 April 2011 - 09:20, said:

The posts that I picked up were in response to me mentioning 6 players that i thought could make the step up. They all disagreed with me, either stating that they couldn't, or that only 2/3 could.

Fair enough! My point was as tommytank suggested, I was gving you an indication of where the top scorer in the border amateur is at, at this moment in time! Im sure grant has the potential to go further, but there is a wee bit of a gulf just now!

[theweebigman]

monthedale, on 06 April 2011 - 15:13, said:

Just the two goals and one assist last night from Grant Wilson, along with a Man of the Match performance by Ross Meikle.

Was really impressed with grant wilson and thought tweeddales 2 wide players were excellent, not sure I would agree with ross meikle being man of match, neither team really had control in middle of the park. Expected a lot more from linton. Would have been good to see both teams get promoted.

[KitNapier]

theweebigman, on 07 April 2011 - 11:01, said:

Was really impressed with grant wilson and thought tweeddales 2 wide players were excellent, not sure I would agree with ross meikle being man of match, neither team really had control in middle of the park. Expected a lot more from linton. Would have been good to see both teams get promoted.

Hotspur didn't show up on the night and got what they deserved by a better Tweeddale team who will rightly go on to win the league. This result really epitomises Hotspurs recent inconsistency, and it will be the dropping of points against allegedly inferior opposition that will cost us promotion. That said, credit has to go to Tweeddale who didn't let us play, and worked extremely hard whilst takng the chances created.

Re Tweeddale, and in reference to this thread which seems to have deviated away from the subject a little, they have several players capable of stepping up and I'm sure they will give a good account of themselves in the A division or beyond if any of them move into the EOS fold. The latter is a slightly different proposition to the A division, though not greatly towards the bottom of EOS 1st, but certainly think that Blair, Nick and possibly Ross Meikle could make that step, outside of those 3 IMO the others have some work to do, but it only my opinion.

In direct reference to the thread, Speedy is and has been for a few seasons now, the best player at this level, probably along with Smithy, Tosh (perhaps not latterly) and now Shorty who is playing at a level below his own standards. There are capable players in each league i suspect but capability is one thing, and displaying it and improving your game is another. The same can be said for stepping up - if you're good enough, you should want to prove yourself at a better level, though in a lot of respects this is lost with some amatuer players IMO.

Re Forsyth and MacNeish, this is undoubtedly our best central defensive partnership, but I understand availability of players to play in the middle has made selection difficult. Gregg Walters is a good example, a more natural central midfield player who is stll working his way back from fittness after a leg break. Gregg also missed the Langholm match immediately before the Dale game having started the previous week therefore difficult to change things i suspect. MacNeish for me has been our standout player this season, and is certainly capable of stepping up. Hopefully alongside Forsyth, they'll form a good partnership for next season and we are able to push for promotion. Whether they are better than Blair or not, in reality doesn't matter and is purely opinion based so the debate could rumble on! Each of them are decent centre halfs and capable of playing at a better level IMO.

Good luck to the dale and rovers for their respective league title pursuits! Would have been good to see all the local teams in the top division - maybe next season!!

Rant over!!

[malky1982]

kickingking, on 06 April 2011 - 20:58, said:

Greedy wee bugger eh!!

You dont get that amount of goals by no bein greedy pal!!!

[monthedale]

tommytank, on 06 April 2011 - 21:39, said:

It's a thread about the best players in the border am, you mentioned Grant Wilson's scoring exploits and he merely compared that to the top scorer in the top league - fairly relevant. On another point, we all know that Forsyth is one of the best players in the league but you should really start comparing him to other centre mid's instead of Moffat as I'm sure he plays there these days and not at the back. He also lacks what little pace he used to have which would make him an easy target for the likes of speedy if he was to drop back there...

I havent compared them at any point.

kickingking, on 07 April 2011 - 09:49, said:

Fair enough! My point was as tommytank suggested, I was gving you an indication of where the top scorer in the border amateur is at, at this moment in time! Im sure grant has the potential to go further, but there is a wee bit of a gulf just now!

Fair point but surely there's a gulf between Speedy and everyone else!?

[kickingking]

monthedale, on 07 April 2011 - 21:38, said:

I havent compared them at any point.



Fair point but surely there's a gulf between Speedy and everyone else!?

In my eyes yes - but im blinkered!

[G_Man22]

Not only in ur eyes kk. Hes topdog!!

[Allbeit86]

kickingking, on 07 April 2011 - 22:10, said:

In my eyes yes - but im blinkered!

Think monthedale was saying that he hadn't compared Moffat and Forsyth as the post he'd quoted suggested. He was then making a point regarding Wilson and Speedy...

All a bit confusing now.