[Unleash The Nade]

Clarko_son, on 31 January 2011 - 16:08, said:

ive got a diet plan sorted now, its basically no carbohydrates but it seems to be going well at the moment. The exercise one is annoying as i go to karate twice a week but now i keep picking up injuries that rule me out of going for say 2 weeks then i make a few sessions then a diffirent problem crops up, it's proving to be quite the bitch

Try the garlic and raw onion diet.
You don't loose any weight,but you look thinner from a distance!


Taxi!

[Clarko_son]

mhak, on 01 February 2011 - 09:28, said:

That's just fucking stupid.

How many times do people need to be told that crash diets don't fucking work? The only way to get into and stay in shape is by eating sensibly (ie, not following some stupid short term plan) and getting plenty of exercise.

my problem was that i couldnt really get as much exercise because of an Achilles problem, though after seeking what feels like endless help about it i feel i can resume again. The reason i've crash dieted was to try n compensate for that (my self confidence was fucked up so i thought id give it a go to try n see if it made any difference) , which although brings a reasonable degree of short term success cant possibly be sustainable, i was and still am fully aware of that

my usual exercise plan was (and hopefully will be again) Karate 4 hours, 90 mins of 5 a side and a 45 ,minute run per week.

just out of interest what do other people do in terms of exercise?

[Fudge]

There's nothing wrong with not eating carbs. When I say that, I mean obvious carbs like pasta, bread etc as there are small amounts in fruits etc.

That's not a crash diet because it's a perfectly healthy and sustainable way to eat.

[Reynard]

Clarko_son, on 01 February 2011 - 13:25, said:

my problem was that i couldnt really get as much exercise because of an Achilles problem, though after seeking what feels like endless help about it i feel i can resume again. The reason i've crash dieted was to try n compensate for that (my self confidence was fucked up so i thought id give it a go to try n see if it made any difference) , which although brings a reasonable degree of short term success cant possibly be sustainable, i was and still am fully aware of that

my usual exercise plan was (and hopefully will be again) Karate 4 hours, 90 mins of 5 a side and a 45 ,minute run per week.

just out of interest what do other people do in terms of exercise?

I play squash three times a week. Two of the games are full on competition, the other is social. I use a crosstrainer at home and I do 15-20k on it the days I dont play squash as it is great for stamina and it doesn't impact my joints at all. I'll quite often do the crosstrainer after squash mainly because I am mental. I do a fairly light weight thingy every other night. I only have my own weights at home so I'm limited with the amount of weight I can hurl around. I have about 90kilos worth of weights here though so I can do some sort of squat exercises with that. It does me anyway. I try and mix up what I do with the weights too.

I basically stopped playing football when I was in my thirties because I had become self employed and I really didn't want to risk breaking something and being unable to work. I know I could do myself some mischief playing squash too, but at least its fairly non contact. I'm more liable to lose an eye than anything else anyway.

I do a bit of hillwalking when I get the chance too and we go out walking with the kids as well just because its good fun for them.

I'm in good nick for an old b*****d.

[Unleash The Nade]

Reynard, on 01 February 2011 - 13:38, said:

I'm in good nick for an old b*****d.

Reynard,is this you?

[Mak]

Clarko_son, on 01 February 2011 - 13:25, said:

my problem was that i couldnt really get as much exercise because of an Achilles problem, though after seeking what feels like endless help about it i feel i can resume again. The reason i've crash dieted was to try n compensate for that (my self confidence was fucked up so i thought id give it a go to try n see if it made any difference) , which although brings a reasonable degree of short term success cant possibly be sustainable, i was and still am fully aware of that

my usual exercise plan was (and hopefully will be again) Karate 4 hours, 90 mins of 5 a side and a 45 ,minute run per week.

just out of interest what do other people do in terms of exercise?

That's fair enough, but you'd still be better off making gradual and sustainable changes to your diet and lifestyle: things like cutting out or cutting down on sweets, crisps and fizzy juice, eating more fruit and veg, etc. I posted a lot of maths in the other thread, which I'm aware that the majority of people aren't going to pay huge amounts of attention to, but you really don't need to. What I will say is that, if you don't take on enough carbs, you won't train as well anyway and you'll take ages to recover after training. It certainly won't do your achilles any good either.

At the moment, I'm doing two sessions of Muay Thai a week plus either two at the gym and one run or three at the gym. I break my gym days up between high intensity resistance work (basically, weight training done as a circuit: it doesn't build muscle like other forms of resistance training, but is great for endurance and functional strength) and high intensity interval training (cardio work consisting of short 'sprints' broken up by longer periods at an easier pace).

Fudge, on 01 February 2011 - 13:34, said:

There's nothing wrong with not eating carbs. When I say that, I mean obvious carbs like pasta, bread etc as there are small amounts in fruits etc.

That's not a crash diet because it's a perfectly healthy and sustainable way to eat.

No it isn't. Especially not if you're getting plenty of exercise. Your body needs carbs to function properly.

What people should be doing is getting the right amount of carbs and getting them from good sources.

[banterman86]

where is this other thread that mhak's talking about? I;m curious to see his post.

[Mak]

banterman86, on 01 February 2011 - 15:43, said:

where is this other thread that mhak's talking about? I;m curious to see his post.

'Bulking up'...which, depressingly enough, has more posts on it than 'get fit, stay fit'.

[FC_1919]

My current exercise for the week is as such,

Monday - circuit training with football team (when this finishes I will do some HIIT on my own_
Tuesday - play 5's for an hour
Wednesday - started swimming the other week, did 30x25m lengths. Going to go for around 50 this week.
Thursday - I usually don't do anything
Friday - football training/5's

[die hard doonhamer]

In the process of getting my bike fixed just now, not been on it for a year as I never got it fixed. Until that's fixed lots of walking with the pram is the order of the day.

[Fudge]

My get fit(ter), stay fit(ter) regime starts tonight.

[Lichtieforlife]

I would consider myself quite fit, I'm about 7 and a half stone, is that too light?

[G_Man1985]

Lichtieforlife, on 01 February 2011 - 21:06, said:

I would consider myself quite fit, I'm about 7 and a half stone, is that too light?

Yes

[Lichtieforlife]

G_Man1985, on 01 February 2011 - 21:11, said:

Yes

I've been told that, but I eat loads of food! I had two sausage rolls and three dohnuts today for lunch.

[die hard doonhamer]

Lichtieforlife, on 01 February 2011 - 21:06, said:

I would consider myself quite fit, I'm about 7 and a half stone, is that too light?

Depends on your age and height.

[Lichtieforlife]

die hard doonhamer, on 01 February 2011 - 21:32, said:

Depends on your age and height.

16, about 5 and a half foot I think.

[Dazzle]

I have managed to get myself down to 11 stone 10 after joining the gym and playing 5s regularly again. I'm pretty certain that's about my ideal weight and I feel alot healther for it. Only drinking one night a week and going to the gym to do cardio one night a week and one night a week in the weight room, maintaining it should be ok.

[Super_J]

I've been getting in about the fitness recently and am trying to drop some weight as well, my scales are telling me that I am losing weight but I don't really notice the difference, i'm wouldn't say i'm a fat b*****d but could use losing an inch or two off the waist, i'm 5'10 and weigh (recently 12st down from 13st). I'm trying to stick to:

Monday: Gym (cycling HIIT for 20mins) then sort of mini circuit of weights & planks and the like.
Tuesday: Street run for half an hour (level pace but thinking of dropping it to 20mins and doing HIIT)
Wednesday: Gym same as Monday
Thursday: 90mins of 5's
Friday & Saturday: Ruin all my hard work.
Sunday: Nothing

I'm also cutting right down on chocolate and sweets, drinking diet fizzy and increasing the fruit and veg (though I always have eaten a decent amount of those).

Can someone who is in the know, that seems to be mhak or someone take a look at that week and see if I should be doing anything differently for weight loss?

[Reynard]

Super_J, on 02 February 2011 - 09:11, said:

I've been getting in about the fitness recently and am trying to drop some weight as well, my scales are telling me that I am losing weight but I don't really notice the difference, i'm wouldn't say i'm a fat b*****d but could use losing an inch or two off the waist, i'm 5'10 and weigh (recently 12st down from 13st). I'm trying to stick to:

Monday: Gym (cycling HIIT for 20mins) then sort of mini circuit of weights & planks and the like.
Tuesday: Street run for half an hour (level pace but thinking of dropping it to 20mins and doing HIIT)
Wednesday: Gym same as Monday
Thursday: 90mins of 5's
Friday & Saturday: Ruin all my hard work.
Sunday: Nothing

I'm also cutting right down on chocolate and sweets, drinking diet fizzy and increasing the fruit and veg (though I always have eaten a decent amount of those).

Can someone who is in the know, that seems to be mhak or someone take a look at that week and see if I should be doing anything differently for weight loss?

I wouldn't obsess about it by weighing yourself. Just keep doing what you are doing and judge yourself visually. You will know by looking that things are getting better.

If you are eating normally and taking some exercise you will lose weight. You can't fail. It's gradual though, don't expect to go for a run and wake up the next morning looking like a hunger striker.

[forehead7]

Lichtieforlife, on 01 February 2011 - 21:34, said:

16, about 5 and a half foot I think.

Yeah, that's "light". I would imagine you're like me. I'm about 175ish cm, which is roughly 5 foot 8(I think). Last time I weighed myself I was about 9 and a half stone, don't think I've gained any fat since then, or muscle for that matter. I don't think that eating loads of junk foods is gonna help you, personally I believe it's my high metabolism that prevents me from gaining weight, the reason I believe it's high is because I don't have a massive appetite but I get hungry within an hour after eating one the the three main meals. I think you're best bet would be trying to put muscle weight on instead of fat weight, I'm not gonna give any advice on gaining muscle weight but following Mahk's advice on both this and the "Bulking Up" thread you'd be doing the right thing.


As for me, I stated on the other thread that I wanted to try and get fit, mostly for fives, by going on a cycling machine. I did a ten minute burst just there, thighs are a bit tight, I'm not gonna say which setting or how far I got for fear of ridicule and embarrassment but I'll be writing them down for personal note and review. It was alright. Might do another session after MOTD if I feel like it, but I've got a Maths assignment for friday so it might hinder me.

Glad to see there's a thread for this kind of thing, hopefully it'll increase my enthusiasm for getting fit.

[G_Man1985]

forehead7, on 02 February 2011 - 23:46, said:

Yeah, that's "light". I would imagine you're like me. I'm about 175ish cm, which is roughly 5 foot 8(I think). Last time I weighed myself I was about 9 and a half stone, don't think I've gained any fat since then, or muscle for that matter. I don't think that eating loads of junk foods is gonna help you, personally I believe it's my high metabolism that prevents me from gaining weight, the reason I believe it's high is because I don't have a massive appetite but I get hungry within an hour after eating one the the three main meals. I think you're best bet would be trying to put muscle weight on instead of fat weight, I'm not gonna give any advice on gaining muscle weight but following Mahk's advice on both this and the "Bulking Up" thread you'd be doing the right thing.


As for me, I stated on the other thread that I wanted to try and get fit, mostly for fives, by going on a cycling machine. I did a ten minute burst just there, thighs are a bit tight, I'm not gonna say which setting or how far I got for fear of ridicule and embarrassment but I'll be writing them down for personal note and review. It was alright. Might do another session after MOTD if I feel like it, but I've got a Maths assignment for friday so it might hinder me.

Glad to see there's a thread for this kind of thing, hopefully it'll increase my enthusiasm for getting fit.

I am the same as yourself.

[Fudge]

All the 'naturally' skinny people I know that have claimed they're skinny because they have a fast metabolism all eat like piegons.

If I don't have 4 large meals a day plus a couple of snacks I'm starving!

[forehead7]

Fudge, on 02 February 2011 - 23:50, said:

All the 'naturally' skinny people I know that have claimed they're skinny because they have a fast metabolism all eat like piegons.

If I don't have 4 large meals a day plus a couple of snacks I'm starving!

Back when I was in high school(second year at uni but didn't do sixth year so about 2 years) I would eat breakfast, lunch, dinner and would have something reasonably substantial (usually sandwich and some soup or something). I wouldn't do that much exercise, about five/six hours a week, depending on if I was involved in sport's matches on a Saturday. Since I'm not at uni and the start is very irregular then I have been missing breakfast, pretty much every day, but I'll still have the other three. But do a shite-load less exercise than then. I walk between the train station and my house/uni which is about ten minutes, so I get forty minutes quick walking each day, sometimes it's a light jog thrown in depending on how late I'm running

Certainly it's my opinion that I have a high metabolism as I know a few people who eat less, exercise more but weigh more, considerably in a couple cases. Maybe they just have a much lower metabolism and mine's is normal but considering I've never been over ten stone and I'm 18 I thinks the metabolism's fault. Although I don't really like beer and tend to drink vodka (or Jager if I've got some extra dough).

[vikingTON]

I think metabolism is a lot of shite for the vast majority of people who cite it, one way or another. I can stay thinnish just because I don't eat a massive amount of shite all the time.

[Pink Freud]

vikingTON, on 03 February 2011 - 02:55, said:

I think metabolism is a lot of shite for the vast majority of people who cite it, one way or another. I can stay thinnish just because I don't eat a massive amount of shite all the time.

I think you are right to an extent, but I remember vividly putting on a couple of stone between the ages of 34 and 35 with changing a damn thing.
I really need to sort myself out. I'm over 17 stone, 6'3" and I smoke. Heart attack waiting to happen. So, diet changes-cutting out bread and replacing with wraps, loads of fruit and veg (I'm lucky in that this just isn't a sacrifice) and cutting out most processed meat, replacing with tuna and chicken. Also tinned sardines and rollmop.
Exercise wise is a real problem. I'm up at 5.30 and don't get home till 8 at the earliest, but I'm making the effort to go for a walk at lunchtime. No where near enough, but a start, and I want to lose at least half a stone before I stop smoking, which will allow me to substitute smoking with exercise. Wish me luck you lean young things.