[Socca_G]

vikingTON, on 31 January 2011 - 12:12, said:

I walk a lot, most places but it doesn't cut the mustard if you're looking for proper fitness. It's not intense enough (and I'm walking quickly, up hills a lot) and even if it did would take too long or too far each time to acheive much. As soon as you have to step up the pace to a jog you'll be breathing out your arse again.

I would disagree, they say that a brisk walk is just as effective as a normal jog. Obviously if you were to bring fartlek training or increasing the intensity of your jog this won't be the case. But a dog owner would lose the same amount of weight as someone who jogs 2 miles round a park at the same pace, by following a good diet and walking his dogs 2-3 times a day using a "brisk" pace.

This is only for people who would want to lose a couple of stone comfortably over a period of time without having to push themselves too hard.

[vikingTON]

dave258, on 31 January 2011 - 00:50, said:

You want to get under 10 stone?? Why? Unless you're a midget that's not healthy.

I was about 10 and a half stone about three years ago and was roughly the same height as now. It was on the edge of unhealthy but f**k knows why. I was still eating quite well, drinking (though not beer, which probably accounts for a lot in my case) and only did a really modest amounf of exercise. Though walking everywhere, especially in the summer, for miles.

[vikingTON]

Socca_G, on 31 January 2011 - 12:22, said:

This is only for people who would want to lose a couple of stone comfortably over a period of time without having to push themselves too hard.

It might work for losing weight (though bear in mind that a jogger should really cover more distance than a walker anyway, in time or effort), but I think you should work on a bit of fitness if you're going down the improvement route. It also means you can do different activities rather than walking, much easier.

[Socca_G]

Ye I agree but everyone has their own goals for weight loss. Some people want a "beach body" for the summer holls, others want muscle to get stronger but some might just want to fit into the trousers they had 10 years ago. Personally I'm in the gym up to 5 times a week just now but I like to follow different work outs. Like you said VT, it allows me to do a variation of activities.

[Mak]

sonofjenova, on 31 January 2011 - 11:17, said:

5'8? You're tiny.

Do you reckon? I thought I was quite tall.

[Aufc]

mhak, on 31 January 2011 - 09:26, said:

What a crock of shit.

I'm 5'8, weigh 9 and a half stone and probably have a healthier diet and exercise regime than anyone else on this site.

Edit: For the OP, I posted something on the weight gain thread about a healthy diet. The exact same rules will work for weight loss, with the only difference being that you need to take on less calories than you're burning.

You probably dont.

[Aufc]

vikingTON, on 31 January 2011 - 12:08, said:

Yeah i could probably do with just improving a bit of fitness by doing some exercise, maybe a bit less fat but on the whole there's not much to change. I'm certainly not going out my way to restricting what I enjoy while I get away with it.



Just as well I'm smarter and more youthful.

Why are you still a virgin then??

[vikingTON]

Aufc, on 31 January 2011 - 14:35, said:

Why are you still a virgin then??

Fail, try again.

[Mak]

Aufc, on 31 January 2011 - 14:32, said:

You probably dont.

Will we compare cock sizes on this one, Aufc? Sounds like great fun.

[Unleash The Nade]

Jogging will eventually f**k up your knees and hips.
Buy a bike as great cardio vascular exercise and low imact on joints

[Reynard]

Unleash The Nade, on 31 January 2011 - 15:11, said:

Jogging will eventually f**k up your knees and hips.
Buy a bike as great cardio vascular exercise and low imact on joints

Too right. Distance running is a fast track to knee and hip replacement surgery.

If you dont want to be out and about get a crosstrainer machine. All the same motion as running and uses the same muscles but it doesn't impact on your joints. Cycling is great too of course.

[FC_1919]

I am quite into the swimming these days, I find it quite easy as I have good technique. First time I went back I had outrageously sore shoulders though.

[Aufc]

mhak, on 31 January 2011 - 15:10, said:

Will we compare cock sizes on this one, Aufc? Sounds like great fun.

Nah you actually seem to know what you are talking about pal! We can do the helicopter together...like a chinook

xx

[Clarko_son]

ive got a diet plan sorted now, its basically no carbohydrates but it seems to be going well at the moment. The exercise one is annoying as i go to karate twice a week but now i keep picking up injuries that rule me out of going for say 2 weeks then i make a few sessions then a diffirent problem crops up, it's proving to be quite the bitch

[Mak]

Aufc, on 31 January 2011 - 16:00, said:

Nah you actually seem to know what you are talking about pal! We can do the helicopter together...like a chinook

xx

Now that does sound like fun xXx

In all seriousness, my original comment was a bit wankerish and you were right to pull me up about it.

Clarko_son, on 31 January 2011 - 16:08, said:

ive got a diet plan sorted now, its basically no carbohydrates...

Wow, go you. What made you choose that above being healthy?

[Clarko_son]

mhak, on 31 January 2011 - 19:33, said:

Now that does sound like fun xXx

In all seriousness, my original comment was a bit wankerish and you were right to pull me up about it.



Wow, go you. What made you choose that above being healthy?

seems to work quite well, and i need to lose weight, generally being healthy would be fine for trying to keep my weight at a normal level. once i've lost a few pounds i can go back to eating those glorious luxuries in life like pasta or bread

[stimpy]

No carbs means you'll loose weight but when you go back to eating them the weight will pile on as your body prepares for the next lean (carbless) period.
As far as I can make out there are no actuall fat b*****ds posting on this thread, well let me be the first. When XL was no longer an option I thought it's time for change so it's off to the gym tomorrow.

[die hard doonhamer]

Clarko_son, on 31 January 2011 - 19:53, said:

seems to work quite well, and i need to lose weight, generally being healthy would be fine for trying to keep my weight at a normal level. once i've lost a few pounds i can go back to eating those glorious luxuries in life like pasta or bread

I'd have thought that once you started eating carbs again you'd just pile the weight back on, no?

[jupe1407]

Does anyone remember a weight loss thread on here, started i think by a guy who intended to eat virtually f**k all for a ridiculous period of time?

Presumably he's now dead.

Anyway...

I've entered the Edinburgh Marathon, which means instead of saying every new year "i'm going to get as fit as f**k this year" then pissing it up against the wall, I now have a target to focus on, to ensure that i DO try to get extremely fit. I downloaded a 16 weeks training plan from the Edinburgh Marathon website, which means I basically start tomorrow. It's a complicated looking fucker with plenty of Fartlek training, tempo running etc etc etc.

Anyone with marathon experience got any tips they could share? Both training and diet-wise.

[Clarko_son]

stimpy, on 31 January 2011 - 22:39, said:

No carbs means you'll loose weight but when you go back to eating them the weight will pile on as your body prepares for the next lean (carbless) period.
As far as I can make out there are no actuall fat b*****ds posting on this thread, well let me be the first. When XL was no longer an option I thought it's time for change so it's off to the gym tomorrow.

die hard doonhamer, on 31 January 2011 - 22:42, said:

I'd have thought that once you started eating carbs again you'd just pile the weight back on, no?

yeah i realised this before I started though an increased exercise plan and much lower intake than before i started should (in theory) compensate for this. No beer, no sugar, no carbs.. it's been a great 2 weeks so far

[Mrs M]

Clarko_son, on 31 January 2011 - 23:13, said:

No beer, no sugar, no carbs.. it's been a great 2 weeks so far

Keep it up. You've still got the bad breath and kidney failure to look forward to!

[Savage Henry]

jupe1407, on 31 January 2011 - 23:03, said:

Does anyone remember a weight loss thread on here, started i think by a guy who intended to eat virtually f**k all for a ridiculous period of time?

Presumably he's now dead.

Anyway...

I've entered the Edinburgh Marathon, which means instead of saying every new year "i'm going to get as fit as f**k this year" then pissing it up against the wall, I now have a target to focus on, to ensure that i DO try to get extremely fit. I downloaded a 16 weeks training plan from the Edinburgh Marathon website, which means I basically start tomorrow. It's a complicated looking fucker with plenty of Fartlek training, tempo running etc etc etc.

Anyone with marathon experience got any tips they could share? Both training and diet-wise.

Yes. This.

A moderate and reasonable weight loss thread is precisely what we need. Or a get in reasonable if unspectacular shape, stay in reasonable if unspectacular shape thread. Or better yet, just ask Gaz. He seems to know his stuff.


Tee hee hee... you said Fart.

[Mak]

Clarko_son, on 31 January 2011 - 23:13, said:

yeah i realised this before I started though an increased exercise plan and much lower intake than before i started should (in theory) compensate for this. No beer, no sugar, no carbs.. it's been a great 2 weeks so far

That's just fucking stupid.

How many times do people need to be told that crash diets don't fucking work? The only way to get into and stay in shape is by eating sensibly (ie, not following some stupid short term plan) and getting plenty of exercise.

J_P, on 01 February 2011 - 05:36, said:

Yes. This.

A moderate and reasonable weight loss thread is precisely what we need. Or a get in reasonable if unspectacular shape, stay in reasonable if unspectacular shape thread. Or better yet, just ask Gaz. He seems to know his stuff.


Tee hee hee... you said Fart.

The exact same things that I said on the other thread apply here, they just need to be applied to a calorie deficit (ie, if mixed with a moderate amount of exercise, around 2,000 calories a day).

The rules of nutrition are very simple. People just like to kid themselves on that there's some magic shortcut around eating well and getting plenty of exercise, which I personally think shows an enormous lack of self respect.

[Savage Henry]

mhak, on 01 February 2011 - 09:28, said:

That's just fucking stupid.

How many times do people need to be told that crash diets don't fucking work? The only way to get into and stay in shape is by eating sensibly (ie, not following some stupid short term plan) and getting plenty of exercise.



The exact same things that I said on the other thread apply here, they just need to be applied to a calorie deficit (ie, if mixed with a moderate amount of exercise, around 2,000 calories a day).

The rules of nutrition are very simple. People just like to kid themselves on that there's some magic shortcut around eating well and getting plenty of exercise, which I personally think shows an enormous lack of self respect.

Or mhak. He does too.

It's all about lifestyle changes.

[Reynard]

mhak, on 01 February 2011 - 09:28, said:

That's just fucking stupid.

How many times do people need to be told that crash diets don't fucking work? The only way to get into and stay in shape is by eating sensibly (ie, not following some stupid short term plan) and getting plenty of exercise.



The exact same things that I said on the other thread apply here, they just need to be applied to a calorie deficit (ie, if mixed with a moderate amount of exercise, around 2,000 calories a day).

The rules of nutrition are very simple. People just like to kid themselves on that there's some magic shortcut around eating well and getting plenty of exercise, which I personally think shows an enormous lack of self respect.

Its laziness. The type of folk that would rather go to a surgeon than actually get off their arse and take control of their life.