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Celtic v St.Johnstone 20/3/10 Pre match warblings.. Rate Topic: -----

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One half of the ugly sisters up next and a game where few Saints fans expect anything. This will be my first miss of the season.. A combination of cost, venue , opposition and view has done it for me..I will be having a relaxing afternoon at home following it on here..

Team news seems to be bad in respect of those missing through injury and also Sheridan will be absent due to the terms of his loan agreement

Really struggling up front for this one and unless Sammy recovers which seems very unlikely, we are down to the Doc, May and Reynolds .There would seem to be no way the Doc will play a lone striker role so I have no idea how we will start up front.. Defence wise it's an easy one for Del..The back four from the Dons game were excellent and unless any of them have picked up anything they will start again.. Midfield wise there may be a start for Sheerin or Swankie ( which would be fine) if Davidson fails to recover ..I may be mad, but I can actually see us getting something from this game.. Okay, I AM mad..

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Can't see us getting anything at all from this game, especially given our injury list. Really hope Davidson comes back for Saturday, as we'll need that grit in the midfield.
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4 or 5-1 defeat. Not going due to the reasons stated above by ghostie. I'd like to see us give Liam Craig a rest. I'd go 4-5-1

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Irvine Duberry Mackay Grainger

Morais Millar Morris Sheerin Swankie

Deuchar

Swanks and Morais supporting Deuchar when they can.

Don't really care about this game. As long as we come through it injury free for Falkirk at home I'll be happy :)
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I am pretty sure those of us who are going would like to see as strong a team as possible. I do find it strange that some of our supporters dont care about this game. Or any game that we take part in.
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View Postjohn1962, on 17 March 2010 - 17:31, said:

I am pretty sure those of us who are going would like to see as strong a team as possible. I do find it strange that some of our supporters dont care about this game. Or any game that we take part in.

it's an expensive month for the fans, the view is terrible, we'll likely get nothing but harrassment from the police and we're going to get beat.

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View PostKyle, on 17 March 2010 - 17:36, said:

it's an expensive month for the fans, the view is terrible, we'll likely get nothing but harrassment from the police and we're going to get beat.

Sign me up now!



I had decent view last time and did not get any harrassment from the police. Its entirely up to you whether you go or not. Everyone must live their own life but to say you dont care isn't about that. Its an extremely selfish viewpoint and not supportive of the club.
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View Postjohn1962, on 17 March 2010 - 17:42, said:

I had decent view last time and did not get any harrassment from the police. Its entirely up to you whether you go or not. Everyone must live their own life but to say you dont care isn't about that. Its an extremely selfish viewpoint and not supportive of the club.

But I don't care about this game. At all.

We won't get anything from it, the club doesn't benefit from me attending in any way, shape or form. I won't feel guilty for not caring about this game. If we win, great. It's a fantastic bonus 3 points and those that go will have a smashing day. I resign myself to us picking up nothing in the games against the OF though, so it doesn't move me
much when we do inevitably get beat by them.
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View PostKyle, on 17 March 2010 - 17:47, said:

But I don't care about this game. At all.

We won't get anything from it, the club doesn't benefit from me attending in any way, shape or form. I won't feel guilty for not caring about this game. If we win, great. It's a fantastic bonus 3 points and those that go will have a smashing day. I resign myself to us picking up nothing in the games against the OF though, so it doesn't move me
much when we do inevitably get beat by them.


We probably wont get anything although we used to say that under Totten and Sturrock too. As for the club not benefitting the manager has spoken on numerous occasions the benefits the team gets from the supporters.
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View Postjohn1962, on 17 March 2010 - 17:52, said:

We probably wont get anything although we used to say that under Totten and Sturrock too. As for the club not benefitting the manager has spoken on numerous occasions the benefits the team gets from the supporters.


We'll have about 1200 tickets made available to us, which is 2% of the stadium capacity. If it wasn't for the scarves etc the players wouldn't be able to even spot us :lol:

I think we'd be as well agreeing to disagree on this one my friend. Our thinking is absolutely miles apart :lol:
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I've received threats from the Calton Crusaders telling me that if I attend I will be beaten up. For that reason, i'm out.
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View Postjohn1962, on 17 March 2010 - 17:31, said:

I do find it strange that some of our supporters dont care about this game. Or any game that we take part in.


I live about a mile from Celtic Park and I won't be going. I go to all home games and most away games but this isn't one that I'm particularly up for. None of the guys I normally go with are coming down from Perth for this one so it doesn't make sense for me to go. I'll likely go to Petershill vs Beith in the juniors instead.
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View PostKyle, on 17 March 2010 - 17:56, said:

I think we'd be as well agreeing to disagree on this one my friend. Our thinking is absolutely miles apart :lol:


I agree i will continue to support the team whenever and wherever I can. When I stop caring I will stop attending permanently.
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View PostDev Alahan, on 17 March 2010 - 17:59, said:

I live about a mile from Celtic Park and I won't be going. I go to all home games and most away games but this isn't one that I'm particularly up for. None of the guys I normally go with are coming down from Perth for this one so it doesn't make sense for me to go. I'll likely go to Petershill vs Beith in the juniors instead.


Thats fair enough. People choose to go or not go for a variety of reasons and its exactly that their choice but even the ones that I know who are not going care about the game.
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View PostDev Alahan, on 17 March 2010 - 17:59, said:

I live about a mile from Celtic Park and I won't be going. I go to all home games and most away games but this isn't one that I'm particularly up for. None of the guys I normally go with are coming down from Perth for this one so it doesn't make sense for me to go. I'll likely go to Petershill vs Beith in the juniors instead.

I just find that post fucking crazy, maybe it's just me.

If i don't go to a Saints game it's because i can't afford it or i'm working. Suppose everyone is different.

Incidently i can't afford it this weekend but my Celtic supporting friend is providing me with a spare Celtic season ticket for stand opposite main stand in the top tier. Apparantly there is loads up for grabs at the moment. I'll count all the loyal Saints fans and report back.

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Dev, i'll be 20 mins away in Kirky and I will be sitting in the local watching SSN so i'm the same.

I don't think the players or management will think any less of us for not turning up in numbers to this particular venue. I'm fucked if i'm spending 25 bar (or whatever it is) to sit amongst all that shite behind a pole. Same goes for Ibrox.
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View Postjohn1962, on 17 March 2010 - 18:08, said:

Thats fair enough. People choose to go or not go for a variety of reasons and its exactly that their choice but even the ones that I know who are not going care about the game.

Where have I said I don't care about the team though? I see this as more or less a meaningless game, where anything we get from it is a bonus. I'm not willing to pay £25+ on a game like this again.
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Looking at the first team squad and worst case scenario, it could be crippling but maybe away to Celtic isn't a bad time to have the injuries as it's not one where we can really expect to pick up much.

1 Alan Main
2 Gary Irvine
3 Danny Grainger
4 Jody Morris
5 Kevin Rutkiewicz
6 Stuart McCaffrey
7 Christopher Millar
8 Martin Hardie
9 Steven Milne
10 Liam Craig
11 Paul Sheerin
12 David Mackay
14 Kevin Moon
15 Euan McLean
16 Peter MacDonald
17 Kenny Deuchar
18 Graham Gartland
19 Gavin Swankie
20 Murray Davidson
21 Collin Samuel
22 Filipe Morais
23 Andrew Jackson
24 Steven Anderson
25 Graeme Smith
26 Cillian Sheridan
27 Mark Connolly
28 Michael Duberry

I was gonna give this one a miss as well, which would've been the first in a long, long time, but have decided to go and popped up to get my tickets at lunchtime. Can fully understand folk not wanting to go and I'm really only going in the hope I'll be sat near Brian McCardie again. I'd hate it if we did get a result and I wasn't there. I was one of the what seemed like double figure support at Celtic Park in September 1998 and it's one of my favourite memories from following Saints.

Hate to be negative but I think it could be a mauling on Saturday though and I'd almost be tempted to do a bit of a Mick McCarthy and ensure we have the right players available to get a result against Falkirk next Tuesday... if we actually had any spare players available!

We need to go with a different, more negative approach than the first visit but even then, I think we'll get done on Saturday. Duberry can't play the high line he seems to want us to as Keane won't make the same mistakes that Mackie and Paton did all of last night. Both of them were quicker than Duberry, so there was no need for them to keep going early and getting caught offside. Keane will be able to give Duberry yards and still do him so we need to sit a bit deeper but even then, it won't be enough.

As great as Deuchar has been in recent weeks, asking him to plough a lone furrow at Celtic Park isn't a prospect I think anyone relishes, so the absence of Sheridan is a blow. Does he throw Reynolds (or May) in from the start?

It was really vital to win last night before really starting to think about the top six but we'll lose at the weekend, so are already looking for Hibs to do us a favour and beat Hearts. If the Jambos win then I think it'll be a long shot for us with Rangers still to visit Perth as a game in hand.

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View PostKyle, on 17 March 2010 - 18:20, said:

Where have I said I don't care about the team though? I see this as more or less a meaningless game, where anything we get from it is a bonus. I'm not willing to pay £25+ on a game like this again.


Ok I may have picked this up wrong but if you dont care about this game it seems to me that you dont care about the team in this game? I dont have a problem with people chossing not to go as I have said all along but you have said on more than one occasion you dont care about this game.
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View PostRadford, on 17 March 2010 - 18:41, said:

I'm really only going in the hope I'll be sat near Brian McCardie again.


More likely to be in Celtic end though. We could try to convince him to change loyalties. :D :D :D
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Here's one for you, hows about Morais playing in "the hole" behind Deuchar and linking up whenever he can, holding and inviting midfield runners. Then when not in possession dropping back and buzzing about the inevitable holding midfield position that Celtic will play. Doesn't sound too fucking crazy to me.
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View PostFife Saint, on 17 March 2010 - 18:46, said:

Here's one for you, hows about Morais playing in "the hole" behind Deuchar and linking up whenever he can, holding and inviting midfield runners. Then when not in possession dropping back and buzzing about the inevitable holding midfield position that Celtic will play. Doesn't sound too fucking crazy to me.

Seems to be the popular suggestion but have to say it doesn't do much for me, not that I can come up with anything better. Hopefully come Friday a few more faces will be back training and give us a bit more choice.

Maybe it's time for the manager to pull out another of his fallen giant signings?
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We will get thumped well an truly hammered, we have no fully fit players that could be turned into a starting 11.

I hope we try and keep the score down to as low as possible, so no silly mistakes and play it safe at all times.

I will say 4-0 with two more injured players.
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View PostRadford, on 17 March 2010 - 18:55, said:

Seems to be the popular suggestion but have to say it doesn't do much for me, not that I can come up with anything better. Hopefully come Friday a few more faces will be back training and give us a bit more choice.

Maybe it's time for the manager to pull out another of his fallen giant signings?



Oh so it's not just me.

As for your suggestion well, you'd be better with Adam fucking... you ken the score.
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Will be giving this one a miss, not worth the expense to get stuck in a crap seat and be treated like dirt, but hey, that's the attitude to the local authorities there.

Anyway in terms of the game, with injuries mounting I can't really see us taking anything from this game, Keane could cause a lot of problems especially with off the ball runs, Dubs was caught out on numerous occasions last night. I feel it could be a three goal margin that Celtic take this, hope not obvously.

Hopefully we'll come through unscathed in terms of injuries as Tuesday is a massive game, where a victory, well I think i'd feel pretty confident of staying up if that was the case!

Perhaps we'll give young Reynolds a run out on Saturday, that would be a fantastic experience for him and who nows might become the star of the show!
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View PostFife Saint, on 17 March 2010 - 21:12, said:

As for your suggestion well, you'd be better with Adam fucking... you ken the score.

I was gonna post a witty comeback with a YouTube link to Adam Rickitt's must have hit I Breathe Again but I wouldn't want to expose anyone to the video. Honestly, don't look. Not even WendyWho? could stomach it.

Quickly moving on, word on the street (aka WAP) is that the young guy that's been on trial after leaving Leeds in January could be about to sign.
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