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Within it, Captain_Sensible posted a number of points which for me, is such a good illustration on how a club (historically in crowds, potential, and past achievements, are on a relative par with Thistle) can be turned around in many ways, if led by some half decent BoD - so I have borrowed CS's post for a specific thread on the current PTFC BoD in this 1st div forum.
I was damn unhappy when I read the latest 'developments' on the in-house PropCo 'deal' ('con' would be better word!), and start of the so-called consultation process, and even more-so now, having read CS's post re the SMFC BoD and past 12 years.
Captain_Sensible, on 16 March 2010 - 14:25, said:
I've been reading this guff on blackandwhitearmy.com and it really does beggar belief.
As the saying goes, "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
Now bearing in mind that the current BoD took over in 1998 when we were £3 million in debt, had a ground which was beginning to fall to pieces and were staring relegation to the Second Division in the face, this is what they have achieved:
1) Underwritten a share issue in 1998 which was largely ignored by the supporters to save the club from going under.
2) Underwritten a share issue in 1999 which was largely ignored by the supporters to build a new stand to allow us into the SPL.
3) Lent the club £650k to pay of Bill Barr and fund a planning application to turn Love Street into a supermarket.
4) Secured planning permission for a supermarket at Love Street against the recommendation of the planners and against the Local Plan.
5) Sold Love Street to Tesco for £12m.
6) Built a brand new stadium.
7) Cleared all the debts.
8 ) Built our own exclusive training ground, one of only 4 clubs in Scotland to have one.
9) Overseen a fourth successive season in the top flight for the first time in almost a quarter of a century.
10) Overseen us reaching our highest league finish in 20 years.
11) Overseen us reaching our first major final in 23 years and our first League Cup Final in 55 years.
It would actually be more appropriate if the BoD turned out in scarlet and blue scarves in protest at some of our lunatic supporters!
As the saying goes, "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
Now bearing in mind that the current BoD took over in 1998 when we were £3 million in debt, had a ground which was beginning to fall to pieces and were staring relegation to the Second Division in the face, this is what they have achieved:
1) Underwritten a share issue in 1998 which was largely ignored by the supporters to save the club from going under.
2) Underwritten a share issue in 1999 which was largely ignored by the supporters to build a new stand to allow us into the SPL.
3) Lent the club £650k to pay of Bill Barr and fund a planning application to turn Love Street into a supermarket.
4) Secured planning permission for a supermarket at Love Street against the recommendation of the planners and against the Local Plan.
5) Sold Love Street to Tesco for £12m.
6) Built a brand new stadium.
7) Cleared all the debts.
8 ) Built our own exclusive training ground, one of only 4 clubs in Scotland to have one.
9) Overseen a fourth successive season in the top flight for the first time in almost a quarter of a century.
10) Overseen us reaching our highest league finish in 20 years.
11) Overseen us reaching our first major final in 23 years and our first League Cup Final in 55 years.
It would actually be more appropriate if the BoD turned out in scarlet and blue scarves in protest at some of our lunatic supporters!
I have bolded a word or phrase in each point - Compare and contrast to what the BoD at Firhill have done (and, even more-so, haven't) done in the same period, since SaveTheJags, and:
1) A lot of credit imho should be given to the SMFC BoD for what they have done for SMFC, as detailed in the 11 points CS has listed. They have turned around a club that could have died on its arse and ended up yo-yoing between the 1st and 2nd Division, or even worse (on and off park) by now.
2) PTFC really has been landed with a bunch of useless, incompetent, self-serving, tightfisted idiots who have played musical chairs for over a decade and if listed, a 100+ points could be easily collated over their shortcomings, failures, fk-ups, lack of personal investment, and multiple other items that have ensured PTFC is a club that promised so much, could have been in a much better place than it is now, and 90% of the blame for our current sorry state lies firmly in the hands of current and recently departed individuals who have sat on the PTFC BoD.
Two questions, to conclude:
1) What do other Jags supporters think (regarding this thread and our BoD in comparison to whats happened at SMFC).
2) What the hell can be done about the current PTFC BoD and the "nice little retirement fund project" (an actual quote of one of the 'Thistle minded investors' who are primarily looking on the PropCo deal as a way to make money for themselves out of Thistle while ruining the stadium and club even further in the coming years, and who won't care one iota when Thistle go to the wall, cause they will be sitting in their luxury homes quaffing champagne and smoking cigars). Is there any way to stop this slow-motion everyone-can-see-it-coming train crash ?
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