[united83]

I was at the game yesterday at Ibrox , the penalties were a joke , Dusan got a touch FIRST before Miller went down...thats called a save not a penalty !!!! second...come on Boyd went to ground so easily !!
However players do that what i am on for is the bias of refs towards the OF. Maybye not bias but they are scared of NOT giving the decisions...the thought of upsetting the so called big two outways fair play. Its been going on for years .
It is a standard joke between fans playing the OF that they will get a penalty or some dodgy decision and im getting fed up with it !! Im an Arab and could think of countless decisions and im sure every fan could do the same .

Rant over !! mighty arabs overcame the 12 men at Ibrox...theres justice !!

[The Old Northerner]

united83, on 15 March 2010 - 16:46, said:

I was at the game yesterday at Ibrox , the penalties were a joke , Dusan got a touch FIRST before Miller went down...thats called a save not a penalty !!!! second...come on Boyd went to ground so easily !!
However players do that what i am on for is the bias of refs towards the OF. Maybye not bias but they are scared of NOT giving the decisions...the thought of upsetting the so called big two outways fair play. Its been going on for years .
It is a standard joke between fans playing the OF that they will get a penalty or some dodgy decision and im getting fed up with it !! Im an Arab and could think of countless decisions and im sure every fan could do the same .

Rant over !! mighty arabs overcame the 12 men at Ibrox...theres justice !!

Big teams tend to get the decisions. It's the same the world over and I would expect an analysis of Dundee Utd (or whoever) vs lower league opposition (should we ever see the evidence ) to back the observation up. Apart from Aberdeen, of course, who are just so shit against diddier teams that even big team syndrome can't help them

[tweed275]

Watched the game yesterday. I was never in any doubt Pernis got the ball and the first penalty was wrong. However having given the penalty he had to send Pernis off as he was last man. Seemed like he didn't know and decided to do a half decision. Second one, while I acknowledge Boyd went down like a sack of tatties I think he was impeded and it was technically a penalty. However the first one gave Rangers a foothold in the game they didn't deserve. Oh and refs aren't biased, they just make mistakes.

[Galajambo]

Will you guys stop it, your only feeding the Celtic paranoia machine

[Tio Pepe]

tweed275, on 15 March 2010 - 17:35, said:

Oh and refs aren't biased, they just make mistakes.

Any idea why their mistakes seem to favour two particular teams?

[tweed275]

Tio Pepe, on 15 March 2010 - 20:24, said:

Any idea why their mistakes seem to favour two particular teams?

They attack more than everyone else.

[WeAreThePeople]

Tio Pepe, on 15 March 2010 - 20:24, said:

Any idea why their mistakes seem to favour two particular teams?

Any reason the same thing happens in the Champions League?


Rangers Vs Sevilla.

Scores are tied, last man tackle horribly wrong, Steven Naismith goes over, referee waves play on. Video Evidence shows its both a penalty and a red-card.


Big team syndrome.

[Duncan Freemason]

tweed275, on 15 March 2010 - 17:35, said:

Watched the game yesterday. I was never in any doubt Pernis got the ball and the first penalty was wrong. However having given the penalty he had to send Pernis off as he was last man. Seemed like he didn't know and decided to do a half decision. Second one, while I acknowledge Boyd went down like a sack of tatties I think he was impeded and it was technically a penalty. However the first one gave Rangers a foothold in the game they didn't deserve. Oh and refs aren't biased, they just make mistakes.

I've asked this elsewhere, but I'll ask again. If Boyd was impeded, wasn't the worst case then that he was actually obstructed, and obstruction inside the box is the same as obstruction outside the box...............an indirect free kick. I'm really struggling to remember the last time I saw an indirect free kick awarded around the penalty box. It's as if it has suddenly become the type of free kick that isn't awarded anymore.

[7-2]

Tio Pepe, on 15 March 2010 - 20:24, said:

Any idea why their mistakes seem to favour two particular teams?

Graham Poll said recently that referees are influenced by big crowds and big names. He personally would think twice about giving a penalty against Man Utd because of the potential press reaction and Fergies comments towards him. Previously he has said he would think twice about sending the captain of England off.

However this sort of thing never happens in Scotland as all referees are perfect and its the diddy fans that are jealous, small minded and indeed bigoted.

[magoo82]

They're certainly influenced by the crowd and the fact that the press reaction to a decision against a team like Utd is more favourable than against the big two.

There's not a fucking hope that either of those two penalties would have been given at the other end of the park. Dillon's was no worse than what happened to Kalvenes in the cup final a couple of years back and not even in the same category as Weir's hatchet job on Hunt at Ibrox, neither of which resulted in a penalty being awarded.

It's different criteria depending on what box it happens in.

[The Old Northerner]

WeAreThePeople, on 15 March 2010 - 21:11, said:

Any reason the same thing happens in the Champions League?


Rangers Vs Sevilla.

Scores are tied, last man tackle horribly wrong, Steven Naismith goes over, referee waves play on. Video Evidence shows its both a penalty and a red-card.


Big team syndrome.

And for symmetry, Eduardo v Celtic.


Oh, how I laughed

[truepar]

its all corupt. The OF always get things their own way but are quick to complain if they dont get the right decision in a OF game or in europe. being a fan supprting a first division team, i sometimes wonder if i would like my team to be in the spl. The first division isn't that bad to watch and only one spl game i have watched this season has entertained me and that was aberdeen 4 celtic 4

[houston_bud]

The Old Northerner, on 15 March 2010 - 16:50, said:

Big teams tend to get the decisions. It's the same the world over and I would expect an analysis of Dundee Utd (or whoever) vs lower league opposition (should we ever see the evidence ) to back the observation up. Apart from Aberdeen, of course, who are just so shit against diddier teams that even big team syndrome can't help them

blatant handball against partick thistle earlier in the competition

[hairybattery]

Dougie McDonald is simply an awful person.

[Davie Bhoy]

Galajambo, on 15 March 2010 - 20:21, said:

Will you guys stop it, your only feeding the Celtic paranoia machine

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Leave of our cousins

[KnightswoodBear]

Davie Bhoy, on 16 March 2010 - 12:43, said:

Leave of our cousins

Is that like "leave of our senses"?

This post has been edited by KnightswoodBear: 16 March 2010 - 12:49

[sweenzo]

Tio Pepe, on 15 March 2010 - 20:24, said:

Any idea why their mistakes seem to favour two particular teams?

Rangers and who ???

Rangers reserves.

[Davie Bhoy]

united83, on 15 March 2010 - 16:46, said:

I was at the game yesterday at Ibrox , the penalties were a joke , Dusan got a touch FIRST before Miller went down...thats called a save not a penalty !!!! second...come on Boyd went to ground so easily !!
However players do that what i am on for is the bias of refs towards the OF. Maybye not bias but they are scared of NOT giving the decisions...the thought of upsetting the so called big two outways fair play. Its been going on for years .
It is a standard joke between fans playing the OF that they will get a penalty or some dodgy decision and im getting fed up with it !! Im an Arab and could think of countless decisions and im sure every fan could do the same .

Rant over !! mighty arabs overcame the 12 men at Ibrox...theres justice !!

Celtic v Dundee Utd at Celtic Park earlier in the season, Celtic get a good goal chopped off for off-side despite the tv provng it was on-side. Then in the same game Darren Dodds attempts a diving header to try and clear the ball but misses it with his head and instead punches it with it's outstretched arm...clear as day. Penalty not given. Games ends in a 1-1 draw and Celtic lose 2 pts.

Dundee Utd v Celtic at Tannadice and for Utd's 2nd Goal Loovens try's to go with the runner who ends up scoring but can't move as the Utd player clearly has him around the waste. Goal stands. Utd win 2-1 and a point is dropped for Celtic.

If your going to go on about refereeig bias then please don't include us with R*****s as you've been the team thats benefitted from major decisions in games against us this season. 4pts Celtic have lost to the Utd due to refs this season.

[Marshmallo]

Davie Bhoy, on 16 March 2010 - 12:54, said:

4pts Celtic have lost to the Utd due to refs this season.

That and managerial incompetence.

[Sam68+1]

Until a few weeks ago I thought the standard this season was marginally better than in pervious years. There seemed to be fewer outrageous decisions than before and even though we have had some dodgy penalties given against us, Hearts, Rangers and Dundee United come to mind you could at least understand why they were given.

However, this past few weeks culminating in the softest penalty I have seen in years on Saturday has made me think that this crop are just as bad as pervious years efforts.

[Davie Bhoy]

Marshmallo, on 16 March 2010 - 12:58, said:

That and managerial incompetence.

Listen mate. I'm not putting my head in the sand and thinking that we have been brilliant this season and that we don't have things the team needs to work on.

However the fact is that there have been major decisions by refs this season that have cost us the title. Maybe if we had a team that could overcome these decisons like we had with some teams in years gone by there'd be less complaints but the fact of the matter is we don't and we can't afford to have refs being competant...generally in favour of one team and against another

[H_B]

Sam68+1, on 16 March 2010 - 13:04, said:

However, this past few weeks culminating in the softest penalty I have seen in years on Saturday has made me think that this crop are just as bad as pervious years efforts.

The Dundee Utd v Rangers game was on Sunday, not Saturday.

I really hope you weren't talking baout the St Johnstone penalty, which was a 50/50 decision and certainly not a dreadful one.

[Sam68+1]

H_B, on 16 March 2010 - 13:10, said:

The Dundee Utd v Rangers game was on Sunday, not Saturday.

I really hope you weren't talking baout the St Johnstone penalty, which was a 50/50 decision and certainly not a dreadful one.

I was talking about the penalty kicks we had given against us in macthes v Rangers, Hearts and Dundee United as well as the one on Saturday against St Johnstone. I disagree that it was 50-50 as when a player has his back to the ball how can you say their was intent. It reminded me of the penalty Motherwell got against us a couple of years back in the famous Thomson show.

This post has been edited by Sam68+1: 16 March 2010 - 13:23

[Marshmallo]

Davie Bhoy, on 16 March 2010 - 13:09, said:

However the fact is that there have been major decisions by refs this season that have cost us the title.

You have had some refereeing decisions go against you. But in the Utd game you mentioned at Tannadice you lost the game because your defence is a shambles and you couldn't defend a corner. The major decision which has cost Celtic the title was the decision to appoint Tony Mowbray as manager.

[Beano 3d]

I don't think Sunday's two penalty errors demonstrated either bias or incompetence. The fact Pernis got the ball well before Miller wasn't obvious from the referee's position - bit harsh to say incompetent in my view. And the second was a clear example of how players who cheat make things very difficult for referees. Correctly called in the Radio Scotland studio by Billy Dodds, who said "If that was me, I'm going down". Jim Traynor immediately picked him up on it saying "So you would go down even if the contact wasn't enough to bring you down?"A question Dodds refused to answer as his voice got higher and higher as it slowly dawned on him he's admitted to cheating on national radio.

Amusing, but very disappointing to see cheating supported by the ex-player pundits.