[KiwiDB]

dubs, on 15 March 2010 - 12:56, said:

Being the best right mid in the world isn't an achievement? What are you on about?

Do you just have a bee in your bonnet with him because he's succesful?

Not at all, I just don't like the guy particularly, in a way I actually admire his skill at using the media circus to his advantage, I'm a big fan however of players like Fabregas who just get on with playing football and forget the rest.

Swampy explained it well, being the best in your position doesn't necessarily make you world class.

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SSN say Beckham has just touched down in Finland for his operation. How exciting. They didn't say what meal he had on the flight but hopefully they'll update us fully shortly.

[Skyline Drifter]

7-2, on 15 March 2010 - 14:36, said:

SSN say Beckham has just touched down in Finland for his operation. How exciting. They didn't say what meal he had on the flight but hopefully they'll update us fully shortly.

He shouldn't have had a meal if he's heading stright for the operation which will I presume be done under anaesthetic.

[dubs]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 14:27, said:

not true.

...

[Mr. Brightside]

dubs, on 15 March 2010 - 12:45, said:

Apart from Figo (who I thought he was better than anyway) in his day he was the best right mid in the world - that's world class if you ask me.

Agreed.

You can't over-rate the second best right-mid in the World can you?

[Mr. Brightside]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 14:27, said:

not true.

Well that has changed his mind.

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Skyline Drifter, on 15 March 2010 - 16:29, said:

He shouldn't have had a meal if he's heading stright for the operation which will I presume be done under anaesthetic.

Good point SD! He would then be following his wife's diet, nil by mouth.


Disappointed Gordon Brown hasn't made a statement yet. The guy just doesn't care.

[vlad is the man]

Swampy, on 15 March 2010 - 12:33, said:

Yep, and for me it's Johnson.

This caught my eye. I was reading Lee Dixon's scouting thing on the BBC and he was saying that if Walcott or Lennon is playing as a right winger then he'd be tempted to go for Wes Brown rather than Johnson to add a bit more steely to the defence. After all do you need both Johnson and one of the "flying wingers" on the right hand side?

I think England could get away with playing narrow at the World Cup as long as both Johnson and Cole are fit.

[Swampy]

Frank Abagnale Jr., on 15 March 2010 - 12:59, said:

Swampy explained it well, being the best in your position doesn't necessarily make you world class.

But I also said that Beckham was world-class.

He absolutely walked it in both Spain and England, he's had a glittering international career (by English standards), I can't believe we're even discussing this, frankly.

[banterman86]

Swampy, on 15 March 2010 - 17:35, said:

But I also said that Beckham was world-class.

He absolutely walked it in both Spain and England, he's had a glittering international career (by English standards), I can't believe we're even discussing this, frankly.

Isn't there a thread in the gold forum which basically serves as a warning to not call beckham crap/overated/not good?

[Mr. Brightside]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 16:55, said:

well it isn't true. Beckham is a great/world class crosser of a ball. He is great/world class freekick taker. But to suggest he is the the best ever, and there is no one else close, just because the english sports media told you this is pathetic.

Who said he was the best ever?

[Mr. Brightside]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 18:03, said:

out of the last few posts dubs, but there are many who believe this myth. I guess they are the same folk who believe rooney is world class and that england will win the world cup.

The media can warp the mind of the easily lead.

dubs wasn't saying that at all.

And Rooney (currently) is World class.

[McKee]

vlad is the man, on 15 March 2010 - 17:29, said:

This caught my eye. I was reading Lee Dixon's scouting thing on the BBC and he was saying that if Walcott or Lennon is playing as a right winger then he'd be tempted to go for Wes Brown rather than Johnson to add a bit more steely to the defence. After all do you need both Johnson and one of the "flying wingers" on the right hand side?

I think England could get away with playing narrow at the World Cup as long as both Johnson and Cole are fit.

I think he was on about Adam Johnson, he scored a cross passed Gordon yesterday, and has looked excellent when I've seen him for Man City.

[guacamole]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 18:03, said:

out of the last few posts dubs, but there are many who believe this myth. I guess they are the same folk who believe rooney is world class and that england will win the world cup.

The media can warp the mind of the easily lead.

Bloody hell. If Rooney's not world class, then who the f**k is? Name me a player other than Ronaldo and Messi who's better right now.

[Mr. Brightside]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 18:33, said:

he he was> wot part of what he said dont you understand. Glad you have joined the knee-jerk reaction i will bring it up in the future. Did you claim darren bent was world class a few months ago? Be honest because i will search back.

He said he was the second best right-mid in his day, not ever.
I haven't, as my post implies, he is currently World class, that is not to say that he always had or always will be.
No, no I didn't he never has been World class, never will.

[Mr. Brightside]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 18:58, said:

dubs said he is the best crosser in the world bar none. Does that not mean he thinks he's the best at crossing?

Right, you said that dubs said he was the "best", I assumed that you meant best right-mid not best crosser.
He probably could be the best crosser in the World.

[Mr. Brightside]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 19:04, said:

i love the certainty. I would agree that he probably could be, as i rate him along side about 10 others.

Who else?

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Mr. Brightside, on 15 March 2010 - 19:00, said:

He probably could be the best crosser in the World.

Nah. That has to be Joseph Ratzinger.

[McKee]

Christian Ziege was better than Beckham at crossing, and free-kicks.

[Mr. Brightside]

It looks really, really innocuous

[Mr. Brightside]

Mr. Brightside, on 15 March 2010 - 19:15, said:

It looks really, really innocuous

In the slow-mo you can actually see it snap, or rupture or whatever

[Mr. Brightside]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 19:20, said:

best i have seen was bloke who used to play ventre half/left back for lazio. Bloke for yugoslavia. As for free kicks it had to be juninho.

Also i have forgot how good gary neville was at crossing.

I can't comment on others, but Juninho is a good shout.

[McKee]

perthshirebell, on 15 March 2010 - 19:20, said:

best i have seen was bloke who used to play ventre half/left back for lazio. Bloke for yugoslavia. As for free kicks it had to be juninho.

Also i have forgot how good gary neville was at crossing.

Mihajalovic? Can't spell his name but he is manager of Catania.

[Mr. Brightside]

McKee, on 15 March 2010 - 19:27, said:

Mihajalovic? Can't spell his name but he is manager of Catania.

Siniša Mihajlović?

This post has been edited by Mr. Brightside: 15 March 2010 - 19:31

[McKee]

Mr. Brightside, on 15 March 2010 - 19:30, said:

Siniša Mihajlović?

That's him. He was a nasty peice of work.


In fact, I remmember there used to be a wee section in MATCH every week dedicated to him, and his ridiculous acts of thuggery.

This post has been edited by McKee: 15 March 2010 - 19:35