[Ogre]

Liam', on 14 March 2010 - 04:01, said:

When have Celtic done this before?


I, personally, want Falkirk to beat St Mirren on the last day of the season thanks to a last minute Michael Higdon OG.

Why ?

[Liam.]

Ogre, on 14 March 2010 - 23:13, said:

Why ?

The reaction here would be best thing to happen in the history of the world.

[craigkillie]

Davie Bhoy, on 14 March 2010 - 21:19, said:

Frazier Wright was also guilty of mandhandling Rasmussen at the same incident before he got elbowed and would have merited a yellow card which would have seen him sent off for a 2nd yellow.

It would have been hard for him to have picked up a second yellow when he didn't even have a first yellow.

[MarreZ]

Liam', on 14 March 2010 - 23:30, said:

The reaction here would be best thing to happen in the history of the world.

We are well used to being relegated being a smaller team, you will have to cream your knickers over something else, how about referees being biased against Celtic, thats a far more productive topic for you.

[The Old Northerner]

TheLip, on 14 March 2010 - 21:48, said:

, and that was to hinder Celtic in any way possible. Mr McCann by these remarks was alluding to a century of cheating.

McCann was talking out of his arse, as well then

Rangers 52
Celtic 42
Best of the rest 4

If the 'Establishment' were that dead set against Celtic, why would have they have been invited into the league? Why did 'cheats' not stop Celtic from being easily the most successful club for the first 30 years of the league? Why did 'cheats' not stop Celtic from winning 9IAR (especially after a particularly lean time after the war, which the 'cheats' must have enjoyed)? Why did the 'cheats' not stop Strachan from pissing all over Rangers?

This post has been edited by The Old Northerner: 15 March 2010 - 13:19

[Captain_Sensible]

The Celtic fans aren't right at all - they benefit just as much from dodgy refereeing decision as Rangers.

[Lisbon67]

OneJamesMcCarthy, on 13 March 2010 - 23:36, said:

What has been said recently by Celtic about SPL referees is turning out to be true. The standard is shocking to say the least.

Correct.

[Lisbon67]

Captain_Sensible, on 15 March 2010 - 13:56, said:

The Celtic fans aren't right at all - they benefit just as much from dodgy refereeing decision as Rangers.

Wrong, where are the facts then?

[Galajambo]

Davie Bhoy, on 14 March 2010 - 21:00, said:

Even more decisions going the way of the Shame. They should have been knocked out the cup at Hamilton but were kept in it due to the ref giving them a shocking pen that never was.

Today neither was a pen but they got two goals from the ref again. Honestly what is the point? Also why did McCulloch only recieve a yellow card for that challenge at the end of the game. He went into the Utd players back with his knee deliberatly. There was no way he could get the ball...yet the ref thought it only merited a yellow card. Pathetic.

Hilarious Davie, absolutely hilarious!!

Surely if the ref was bent in favour of Rangers then he would have sent off the United keeper no? Add to that the fact that Dougie McDonald is a well known Hibs fan and he really has no reason to favour Rangers, fair enough he got the second penalty award wrong, but jesus if he'd done his job properly then Rangers wouldn't be going to Tannadice for a replay as they would have blown aside a ten man United side, he actually did you lot a favour by fucking up and not sending the keeper off!

[Lisbon67]

Galajambo, on 15 March 2010 - 14:00, said:

Hilarious Davie, absolutely hilarious!!

Surely if the ref was bent in favour of Rangers then he would have sent off the United keeper no? Add to that the fact that Dougie McDonald is a well known Hibs fan and he really has no reason to favour Rangers, fair enough he got the second penalty award wrong, but jesus if he'd done his job properly then Rangers wouldn't be going to Tannadice for a replay as they would have blown aside a ten man United side, he actually did you lot a favour by fucking up and not sending the keeper off!

But if Charlie Richmond had done his job right, he wouldn't have awarded Rangers a penalty against Accies' Stuart Elliot at NDP.

[Galajambo]

Lisbon67, on 15 March 2010 - 14:02, said:

But if Charlie Richmond had done his job right, he wouldn't have awarded Rangers a penalty against Accies' Stuart Elliot at NDP.

But he did award it so dry yer eyes ffs!

[MarreZ]

Lisbon67, on 15 March 2010 - 13:59, said:

Wrong, where are the facts then?

Its a fact Boruc should have been sent off on his assault on Dargo, and that Will Haining shouldnt have been sent off or a penalty given against us last season, or Nakamura shouldnt have been able to dive and get a free kick to win the game, 3 games, gave Celtic 6 more points than they should have had.

[Captain_Sensible]

Lisbon67, on 15 March 2010 - 13:59, said:

Wrong, where are the facts then?

24th Feb 2008 St. Mirren 0-1 Celtic
Nakamura fouls Gary Mason but ref gives free kick to Celtic with 5 mins left. Nakamura scores to win the game.

10th Aug 2008 Celtic 1-0 St. Mirren
Hesselink and Haining tussle OUTSIDE the box - decision could go either way. Ref gives Celtic a penalty and sends off Haining. Celtic score winner from penalty.

22nd Nov 2008 St. Mirren 1-3 Celtic
At 0-0 Boruc fouls Dargo (see attached image) as he runs through at goal. The foul itself is worthy of a red card, Boruc himself is the last man as Dargo is ahead of the defenders, the ball lands in the box - its an obvious goalscoring opportunity. Boruc is only yellow carded.

28th Feb 2009 Celtic 7-0 St. Mirren
At 1-0 to Celtic Jack Ross brings down Scott McDonald in the box (although he appears to win the ball). Ref gives a penalty and Ross is sent off. Celtic go on to thrash St. Mirren.

7th Mar 2009 St. Mirren 1-0 Celtic
This is the Scottish Cup game the week after the match mentioned above. Stephen McManus brings down Dargo in the box as he is about to shoot. Clearcut penalty and clearcut red card for denying a goalscoring opportunity. Unlike the previous week at Parkhead however the referee only brings out a yellow card.

26th Sept 2009 St. Mirren 0-2 Celtic
Game is 1-0 to Celtic and St. Mirren have started puttin on pressure to equalise. Celtic score the clinching second with a goal that is shown to be clearly offside on TV.

Now these were all match defining decisions (although we managed to hang on and win the cup game). We've had far more of these go against us when playing Celtic recently than when playing Rangers. You can clearly see the inconsistency - 2 red cards for St. Mirren players and 2 yellow cards for Celtic players in far more clear cut incidents.

Can you tell us the big decisions that have gone agasint Celtic when playing St. Mirren?

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[DomDom]

Liam', on 14 March 2010 - 23:30, said:

The reaction here would be best thing to happen in the history of the world.

If that's a reason to want a team relegated then you really are quite sad.

[deky]

Captain_Sensible, on 15 March 2010 - 14:16, said:

Can you tell us the big decisions that have gone agasint Celtic when playing St. Mirren?

This should be a laugh.

[Captain_Sensible]

deky, on 15 March 2010 - 14:40, said:

This should be a laugh.

See the thing is, decisions go against us when we play the likes of Motherwell - but decisions also go for us when we play the likes of Motherwell. These things even themselves out.

Mind you, you could also say that decisions even themselves out when we play the Old Firm as well - because every diddy team gets shafted by the officials in these games.

[Colin M]

I think we got a shy at the halfway line that hit off David Barron last.

[H_B]

You laugh Colin, but the Daily Record "Ref report" today said "Poor game, as ref gave two dodgy penalties to Rangers.. but he also gave a free kick to Dundee Utd in the first half when Lee McCulloch was clearly fouled"

[Captain_Sensible]

H_B, on 15 March 2010 - 14:59, said:

You laugh Colin, but the Daily Record "Ref report" today said "Poor game, as ref gave two dodgy penalties to Rangers.. but he also gave a free kick to Dundee Utd in the first half when Lee McCulloch was clearly fouled"

I read Gordon Waddell's report on the Rangers v St. Mirren game last week and couldn't believe it. Here is a guy who is a Falkirk fan and yet he's clearly influenced by the Old Firm media.

His comments were along the line that ref got the Weir / Higdon decision wrong because he gave Higdon the advantage and then pulled it back when he didn't score......

er, isn't that the point ofthe advantage rule? The ref allows play to go on to see if the attacking side gets an advantage and if they don't - being fouled by Weir in the process of shooting possibly having an effect on Higdon's shot - then play gets pulled back.

No mention that it should actually have been a penalty nor the fact that, having given the foul and it clearly being a goalscoring opportunity, Weir should have been red carded.

No mention of the fact that Rangers equaliser came from a free kick that shouldn't have been awarded.

[Colin M]

The Weir one was ridiculous. It's bad enough a decision being wrong but there you basically had a referee just making up the rules!

[Galajambo]

Captain_Sensible, on 15 March 2010 - 14:16, said:

24th Feb 2008 St. Mirren 0-1 Celtic
Nakamura fouls Gary Mason but ref gives free kick to Celtic with 5 mins left. Nakamura scores to win the game.

10th Aug 2008 Celtic 1-0 St. Mirren
Hesselink and Haining tussle OUTSIDE the box - decision could go either way. Ref gives Celtic a penalty and sends off Haining. Celtic score winner from penalty.

22nd Nov 2008 St. Mirren 1-3 Celtic
At 0-0 Boruc fouls Dargo (see attached image) as he runs through at goal. The foul itself is worthy of a red card, Boruc himself is the last man as Dargo is ahead of the defenders, the ball lands in the box - its an obvious goalscoring opportunity. Boruc is only yellow carded.

28th Feb 2009 Celtic 7-0 St. Mirren
At 1-0 to Celtic Jack Ross brings down Scott McDonald in the box (although he appears to win the ball). Ref gives a penalty and Ross is sent off. Celtic go on to thrash St. Mirren.

7th Mar 2009 St. Mirren 1-0 Celtic
This is the Scottish Cup game the week after the match mentioned above. Stephen McManus brings down Dargo in the box as he is about to shoot. Clearcut penalty and clearcut red card for denying a goalscoring opportunity. Unlike the previous week at Parkhead however the referee only brings out a yellow card.

26th Sept 2009 St. Mirren 0-2 Celtic
Game is 1-0 to Celtic and St. Mirren have started puttin on pressure to equalise. Celtic score the clinching second with a goal that is shown to be clearly offside on TV.

Now these were all match defining decisions (although we managed to hang on and win the cup game). We've had far more of these go against us when playing Celtic recently than when playing Rangers. You can clearly see the inconsistency - 2 red cards for St. Mirren players and 2 yellow cards for Celtic players in far more clear cut incidents.

Can you tell us the big decisions that have gone agasint Celtic when playing St. Mirren?

Those are only the ones that spring to memory too mate, every team in the league could compile a dossier on the wrong decisions that Celtic have been awarded against them, they really have surpassed themselves this time.

This post has been edited by Galajambo: 15 March 2010 - 21:02

[saint sid]

Liam', on 14 March 2010 - 23:30, said:

The reaction here would be best thing to happen in the history of the world.

the best thing to happen in the history of the world would be- if the old firm shut the f**k up and stop whinging like a bunch of nob-socks!!

[quote name='Captain_Sensible' date='15 March 2010 - 14:47' timestamp='1268664427' post='4317002']
See the thing is, decisions go against us when we play the likes of Motherwell - but decisions also go for us when we play the likes of Motherwell. These things even themselves out.

Mind you, you could also say that decisions even themselves out when we play the Old Firm as well - because every diddy team gets shafted by the officials in these games.
FACT

This post has been edited by saint sid: 16 March 2010 - 04:11

[deky]

Captain_Sensible, on 15 March 2010 - 14:47, said:

See the thing is, decisions go against us when we play the likes of Motherwell - but decisions also go for us when we play the likes of Motherwell. These things even themselves out.

Mind you, you could also say that decisions even themselves out when we play the Old Firm as well - because every diddy team gets shafted by the officials in these games.

Totally true Captain. It always annoys me at the time when decisions go against us when playing St Mirren, Falkirk etc but you know you'll get dodgy decision for you as well against these teams so it gets forgoten about after the game.

Something else that really annoys me though is Celtic fans attitude to decisions that Rangers get against us. They feel as if it's them that has been wronged not Motherwell. I can remember a good few 20,9,13,19 going nuts about anti Celtic bias when our goal was chopped off at FP. Fair enough it gave Rangers a ill deserved point but it was Motherwell who suffered most.

Celtic are never right.