[Muggy]

The second 2-2 draw against ICT at Dens park this season. I thought we started by far the better team and ICT were probably the poorest I'd seen them this season. The game started to open up a bit more, with Hayes and Griffiths the main danger-men for each team. ICT then unlucky not to go ahead with the inside of the post coming to Dundee's rescue.

Caley scored within minutes of the restart with a well worked cross and header from Foran. We sat back and invited them onto us, with Hayes causing more problems. Another goal was unsurprising, with Rooney running onto a long ball and cutting it across goal for Odhiambo (sp?) to tap in. Terrible goal to concede. ICT, happy with the two goal cushion, settled to sit in deep and get as many players behind the ball as possible. This gave Griffiths more space to exploit down the left, sending some vicious crosses into the ICT six yard box. On one such occasion, the cross is headed out only to be met by the onrushing Brian Kerr, who takes a touch to control the bouncing ball, setting himself up for a wonderful, swerving volley, taking the ball past the helpless Esson. Game on. Dundee up the tempo and ICT's rearguard is struggling to cope.

The equaliser is a fantastic solo effort from Harkins but with a massive slice of luck, after taking the ball past numerous players, cutting in towards goal, he unleashes a left foot strike that takes a huge deflection en route to goal, wrong footing the 'keeper on its way into the net. 2-2.

Sean Higgins must have thought he was still playing in that incredible Alba Cup Final match where we came from 2-0 down to beat ICT 3-2. A third almost came when Paton had a volley at the back post blocked on it's way to goal, but a draw it finished, much to the disappointment of both sets of players. Dundee looked like grabbing a winner whilst ICT will be gutted to throw away a two goal lead.

Feels like a win. Certainly, it's a psychological win. Great character. Need to up our game from the start rather than when we're 2-0 down with no pressure on us. Still, absolutely delighted. Terry Butcher must wonder what his side have to do to beat us.

One last point re. Griffiths. I feel sorry for the guy. He's too good for us, and even though he doesn't adopt that attitude, it's true. The team doesn't do enough to get him on the ball in good areas. He's an out and out goalscorer, not a winger. He's a very good winger, but he can't do both. Goals take priority.

Anyway, great result in hindsight.

[bcoxk76]

agree with every word there mate!

This post has been edited by bcoxk76: 06 March 2010 - 17:43

[RiG]

Seems a pretty fair summation. How bad was the deflection? Did Esson look to have it covered and are there any highlights of Dundee games?

As someone has said on our forum Champions recover from two goals down, not throw away a two goal lead. Todays result shows (to me) why we won't be at the summit come the end of the season.

[mattydfc]

Them last 15 minutes were the most exciting I've seen in a long time. If they were another 5 minutes to play we would have won.

We were good for the first 10, Griffiths probably should've scored near the start but saying that one of the Inverness players missed the easiest chance I've ever seen. After the first 10 we took our foot off the gas and allowed Inverness to dominate. Btw, Odhiambo was terrific today and if Rooney could keep himself onside more often he'd score much much more goals. Brian Kerr went about his business well today and his goal, well, nothing short of sublime. Lauchlan was another who had a fantastic game but when does he not? Shinnie as well was good in the middle also Griffiths was as good as he could be against that brute Tokely who btw is an absolute shocker of a football player.

Great point though and great character from the players to come back and get a point.

[Muggy]

RiG, on 06 March 2010 - 17:44, said:

Seems a pretty fair summation. How bad was the deflection? Did Esson look to have it covered and are there any highlights of Dundee games?

As someone has said on our forum Champions recover from two goals down, not throw away a two goal lead. Todays result shows (to me) why we won't be at the summit come the end of the season.

The shot was probably going wide. In any case, Esson rushed to the right side of his goal to make what would have been a comfortable save, but as he rushed to the side of his goal, the ball deflected off an ICT defender, completely changing direction of the ball.

DFCTV do highlights, but the whole package costs £120 each year.

[blairgowriedee]

Only pass marks for me were Lauchlan, Kerr, Shinnie and Griffiths. The rest need to take a long hard look at themselves, cause we will blow the league. Why was Shinnie taken off when Harkins and Forsyth were so guff? Honestly think Jocky has the mindset as Jim Duffy has when it comes yto subbies, clueless.

[The Master]

Pretty much agree with every word of the first post.

We were very lucky today, and the result does feel like a win. Others have closed the gap, but I'm still reasonably happy tonight.

[Muggy]

blairgowriedee, on 06 March 2010 - 17:51, said:

Only pass marks for me were Lauchlan, Kerr, Shinnie and Griffiths. The rest need to take a long hard look at themselves, cause we will blow the league. Why was Shinnie taken off when Harkins and Forsyth were so guff? Honestly think Jocky has the mindset as Jim Duffy has when it comes yto subbies, clueless.

Harkins earned us a point. That's why.

On a another note, can't wait until Richie Hart is back.

[blairgowriedee]

Bobby Cox, on 06 March 2010 - 18:00, said:

Harkins earned us a point. That's why.

On a another note, can't wait until Richie Hart is back.

A shot that was going well wide, huge deflection, i can only assume you are in the Gary Harkins fan club!!!. Ok we got a point but GH and CF should both have been subbed due to there shitiness.

[BigAl024]

blairgowriedee, on 06 March 2010 - 18:06, said:

A shot that was going well wide, huge deflection, i can only assume you are in the Gary Harkins fan club!!!. Ok we got a point but GH and CF should both have been subbed due to there shitiness.

GGH stays on the pitch, because he is capable of changing a game with his quality.

[blairgowriedee]

BigAl024, on 06 March 2010 - 18:13, said:

GGH stays on the pitch, because he is capable of changing a game with his quality.

Pity theres no much of it on show then,i will go by your reports next week if your there, because i aint wasting £40-50 watching that garbage.

[DAFC]

Big crowd.



Mostly Dundeh fans?

[The Master]

DAFC, on 06 March 2010 - 18:20, said:

Big crowd.



Mostly Dundeh fans?

No, mostly Dundee fans.

I'd say Caley had about 500 at most.

[BigAl024]

blairgowriedee, on 06 March 2010 - 18:18, said:

Pity theres no much of it on show then,i will go by your reports next week if your there, because i aint wasting £40-50 watching that garbage.

He got us a draw today!

[DarkBlue62]

I had a bad rant prepaired in my head for when I came home and expected a lose. Eveyone in the derry was arguing with each other and half of them left when Caley scored their 2nd. When we scored our 2nd, some people must of thought we just won the league.

[Derry_boy]

Mixed emotions here, at the start of the game id of thought we would have won this, but then im very happy with a point in what certainly looked a defeat. Don't think Calley actually threated much apart from there goals but we didn't either.

Good play from Calley for both goals but for the first douglas was at fault, no keeper should let a striker score a header 3 yards out and the 2nd was far too easy, good play tho. Dundee never had an answer untill the ball dropped for Kerr 25 yards, out of nothing he hit the ball on the bounce and pinged it straight into the top left corner, great goal. The equaliser was very fortunate, good play from Harkins to get inside but with the shot that looked like going wide or was to be saved, took a massive deflection and rolled in the middle of the goal.

Thought the only players today that tried to create or worked hard enough were Lauchlan, Malone, Griffiths and Kerr. Kerr i thought looked up for it and was my MOTM. Harkins a couple of flashes today but more bad than good unfortunately.

Good vocal away support and the last 15 minutes entertainment wise was great.

Happy with a point in the end.

This post has been edited by Derry_boy: 06 March 2010 - 18:34

[fraser_smfc]

I've never seen Forsyth play a "good game". I really want Dundee to win the league, believe me, but watching that today I'm wondering just how in God's name they are there? I've been to a few games and the performances in all have been extremely poor. It seems to be the occasional ground out win. I can't help thinking a better manager would guide the team to playing attractive football. I am a St Mirren fan first and foremost, but any neuteral can see that the team don't know what they're doing. They appear to be lacking any sort of leadership and they don't seem to know what to do in a lot of circumstances. A few points:

Why is Griffiths playing out wide when goals are needed and he's most effective through the middle?
Ben Hutchinson looks like he can't be arsed. £1.2 million my arse.
Jocky Scott just doesn't appear to be the man for the job.
Dundee are effectively relying on "lucky" goals (30 yarders included), instead of normal "well-worked" goals.
Dundee are in severe trouble of throwing away this league.

Cracking last 15 minutes though. I don't feel sorry in the slightest fo those who left after the second went in with half an hour to go.

[fraser_smfc]

The Master, on 06 March 2010 - 18:21, said:

No, mostly Dundee fans.

I'd say Caley had about 500 at most.

They had 200 at most.

[blairgowriedee]

fraser_smfc, on 06 March 2010 - 18:29, said:

I've never seen Forsyth play a "good game". I really want Dundee to win the league, believe me, but watching that today I'm wondering just how in God's name they are there? I've been to a few games and the performances in all have been extremely poor. It seems to be the occasional ground out win. I can't help thinking a better manager would guide the team to playing attractive football. I am a St Mirren fan first and foremost, but any neuteral can see that the team don't know what they're doing. They appear to be lacking any sort of leadership and they don't seem to know what to do in a lot of circumstances. A few points:

Why is Griffiths playing out wide when goals are needed and he's most effective through the middle?
Ben Hutchinson looks like he can't be arsed. £1.2 million my arse.
Jocky Scott just doesn't appear to be the man for the job.
Dundee are effectively relying on "lucky" goals (30 yarders included), instead of normal "well-worked" goals.
Dundee are in severe trouble of throwing away this league.

Cracking last 15 minutes though. I don't feel sorry in the slightest fo those who left after the second went in with half an hour to go.

Thank you for your neutral words, and i have to agree with you totally.

[The Master]

fraser_smfc, on 06 March 2010 - 18:29, said:

They had 200 at most.

Damn this Seville Calculator app on my iPhone

[rossyboy]

fraser_smfc, on 06 March 2010 - 18:29, said:

I've never seen Forsyth play a "good game". I really want Dundee to win the league, believe me, but watching that today I'm wondering just how in God's name they are there? I've been to a few games and the performances in all have been extremely poor. It seems to be the occasional ground out win. I can't help thinking a better manager would guide the team to playing attractive football. I am a St Mirren fan first and foremost, but any neuteral can see that the team don't know what they're doing. They appear to be lacking any sort of leadership and they don't seem to know what to do in a lot of circumstances. A few points:

Why is Griffiths playing out wide when goals are needed and he's most effective through the middle?
Ben Hutchinson looks like he can't be arsed. £1.2 million my arse.
Jocky Scott just doesn't appear to be the man for the job.
Dundee are effectively relying on "lucky" goals (30 yarders included), instead of normal "well-worked" goals.
Dundee are in severe trouble of throwing away this league.

Cracking last 15 minutes though. I don't feel sorry in the slightest fo those who left after the second went in with half an hour to go.

Unfortunately I have to agree with everything you have said there.
That was two shite teams on display today, we are totally lack lustre, we havent a clue what we are doing when we are going forward.
For Inverness to throw away a two goal lead against ourselves who to be frank cannot kick our own backsides says not alot for Terry Butchers tactical nouse or the ability of his players.
If we win the League then it will be one of the worst standard of side to acheive promotion from this league in a long time.
We HAVE the players to play teams off the park but why oh why are we not producing ????????
Why are we not taking command of games on our own turf?
I dont see Jocky at Dens next year to be honest, Dundee legend and loved him to bits when he was a player BUT we are on a knife edge here from either blowing it or scraping the league.

[Muggy]

f**k sake, calm down.

[silver]

Bobby Cox, on 06 March 2010 - 18:43, said:

f**k sake, calm down.

Spoilsport, its rather entertaining reading people panicking

[Deeboy]

Terrible game of football. Inverness had a plan to counter attack with the long ball and stuck to it, rigidly. Even at 2-0 up.

Yet again Jocky's tactical nous was shown in glaring light to be pathetic. Not one player would get pass marks for me -

Douglas - Smart save at feet first half but wasn't in the action - 5/10
Paton - Total opposite of what we had in Worrell, stays forward too much at times. 4/10
Lauchlan - Awful. Just awful. Many people will disagree but was made too look half decent by the constant long ball of Inverness, whenever the ball was on the deck, left wanting. 4/10
McKenzie - Was controlling the game first half and playing the ball out of defence, missed a pass by Douglas early on second half, brought his man down and confidence just went. 5/10
Malone - Solid in the tackle but not enough going forward. 5/10
Shinnie - Has never impressed, far too lightweight. 3/10
Kerr - Woeful with wasting passes all game.That said, last 15 minutes was the best I've seen from a centre midfielder at Dens since Dariusz Adamczuk. Totally swung the game in Dundee's favour. 6/10
Forsyth - Not a centre midfielder, has never claimed to be, well done Jocky, fuking masterstroke. 2/10
Harkins - Where do I start? One meaningful run all day, One great pass all game. The rest was show pony stuff, playing self destruct balls across the back line. 3/10
Griffiths - I feel sorry for him, plenty of determination and running into space. Had no support all game. Worked back and was kicked about the park. 6/10
Hutchison - Hard worker, good control and vision of whats around. Sadly not enough threat. 4/10


SUBS:
Higgins - Cowered away from a ball kicked long from Douglas, he's a professional footballer 30 yards out, not a man near him and he jessies away from the ball. Embarassment. 1/10
McMenamin - Genuinely put fear into the Caley defence, runs off the shoulder, making room for others. 3/10


We had a massive stroke of luck, again. No doubt there will be people sticking up for Jocky, but yet again, we were left wanting and he done nothing to change it. Not until 2-0 down with 15 minutes to go. Not good enough. 4-3-3 against a 4-5-1? Come on Jocky, open your fuking eyes.


EDIT - It appears Kerr did get pass marks.

This post has been edited by Deeboy: 06 March 2010 - 19:03

[rossyboy]

Bobby Cox, on 06 March 2010 - 18:43, said:

f**k sake, calm down.

lol calm down?????
Nobody is panicking, its blatantly obvious that we are faltering now.
Its Jocky that should be panicking as he stated that we need to win every home game from a couple of weeks ago, we have already failed on that front.
Either way I think Jocky will be off next season regardless of promotion or not.