[Savage Henry]

Dear Everyone,

STOP THE PRESS;

I have taken it upon myself to launch the 2010 Pie & Bovril Fantasy Baseball League. It promises to be the most exciting ever. The facts you need are;

Yahoo Fantasy Baseball
Name; Pie & Bovril Baseball Bonanza
Code; 243720
Password; DerekAdamsIsCool
Draft date (Provisional) 9pm GMT Sunday, March 21st. Please let me know when would suit and I'll change it to the most popular.

Please sign up, all the categories and squad sizes are provisional. I'll probably get rid of the bench spots, if nobody minds, for starters.

Yours,
JP

This post has been edited by Jim Pansy: 16 February 2010 - 17:42

[Savage Henry]

Update; changed the date to the Sunday. Seems more reasonable. Wouldn't want anyone to miss out on some Friday boozing, would we?

[bluetooner]

Jim Pansy, on 16 February 2010 - 17:31, said:

Update; changed the date to the Sunday. Seems more reasonable. Wouldn't want anyone to miss out on some Friday boozing, would we?

I don't know - if we make it 2am saturday morning, then maybe i can get everyone to pick a Carlos Silva in the first round

[Savage Henry]

Bumpity bump. Only five members. If uptake remains low, I'll add some extra roster places to make things a bit more interesting.

[Skeletar Spider]

Jim Pansy, on 24 February 2010 - 12:20, said:

Bumpity bump. Only five members. If uptake remains low, I'll add some extra roster places to make things a bit more interesting.

I'll join, that'll be me up to 3, but the more leagues I have, the more time I can kill!

My other league drafts tonight, so if anyone is still up for joining, give us a message, we have places left. Go on, you know you want to.

[Cowshed Chris]

I'm in... will give my brother a shout as well as he entered last year.

Same scoring system as last year?

[Savage Henry]

Cowshed Chris, on 24 February 2010 - 13:37, said:

I'm in... will give my brother a shout as well as he entered last year.

Same scoring system as last year?

Pretty much. I think I included Grand Slams as bonus points but that's about the only difference I think.

[Skeletar Spider]

Is OBP one of the categories?

[EdinburghLivi]

I'll play as long as someone explains the rules

[Savage Henry]

Skeletar Spider, on 24 February 2010 - 20:50, said:

Is OBP one of the categories?

Not unless everyone wants it to be. Trying to keep it as simple as possible.

EdinburghLivi, on 24 February 2010 - 20:52, said:

I'll play as long as someone explains the rules

Great. I'll send you a PM. It's mainly a case of making sure none of your players are injured.

[EdinburghLivi]

Orioley? have joined the league

[Savage Henry]

Skeletar Spider, on 24 February 2010 - 12:49, said:

I'll join, that'll be me up to 3, but the more leagues I have, the more time I can kill!

My other league drafts tonight, so if anyone is still up for joining, give us a message, we have places left. Go on, you know you want to.

How did you get on? My pitching line up is retarded - Tim Lincecum, Cliff Lee, Johann Santana, Clayton Kershaw , Cole Hamels, Mariano Rivera and Joe Nathan.

[Zanetti]

Birds Are Blue have joined.

[Skeletar Spider]

Jim Pansy, on 24 February 2010 - 22:01, said:

Not unless everyone wants it to be. Trying to keep it as simple as possible.



Great. I'll send you a PM. It's mainly a case of making sure none of your players are injured.

Aw come on, it's got to be one of the cateogeries, it's pretty much proven as THE most important stat when it comes to hitting. Average shouldn't be there ahead of On Base Percentage really.

[bluetooner]

Skeletar Spider, on 25 February 2010 - 16:42, said:

it's pretty much proven as THE most important stat when it comes to hitting.

Rubbish.

To prove how rubbish:-

Player A - whom i shall not name due possibly embarrassing him:-

Avg : OBP : Slg

.145 .330 .171

.330 isn't great - but it is a passable OBP.

His Avg and Slugging showed how bad he was last year.

[Skeletar Spider]

Have you read Moneyball? If not, I highly recommend it, as it illustrates my point far clearly than I am capable in a messageboard post.

However, I'll take the time to point out that while you say that his slugging and his average prove that he has had a terrible season, you ignore that his ability to take walks - a completely underrated attribute - has allowed him to end the season with, as you have put it, a passable OBP. If he gets on base a third of the time, it doesn't matter how he does it - he's getting on base, and that's how you score runs in baseball.

[bluetooner]

So, 10 players in so far, hopefully everyone stays active, and can make the draft.

As for OBP being the most important stat in baseball, it is important but no 1 stat is the "most important". You really have to look at them all to interpret how good a player is, and depending on what role they have in the team, the "acceptable" numbers are all different. In Fantasy baseball however, it isn't an important stat at all.

[Skeletar Spider]

bluetooner, on 04 March 2010 - 17:56, said:

So, 10 players in so far, hopefully everyone stays active, and can make the draft.

As for OBP being the most important stat in baseball, it is important but no 1 stat is the "most important". You really have to look at them all to interpret how good a player is, and depending on what role they have in the team, the "acceptable" numbers are all different. In Fantasy baseball however, it isn't an important stat at all.

Mince, if it's in there, it is an important stat, of course it is. And seeing as it's the best way of telling how efficient a player his, it should be in any fantasy league.

[bluetooner]

Skeletar Spider, on 04 March 2010 - 21:33, said:

And seeing as it's the best way of telling how efficient a player his, it should be in any fantasy league.

What?

[Skeletar Spider]

bluetooner, on 04 March 2010 - 22:40, said:

What?

You don't understand what this means?

[bluetooner]

Skeletar Spider, on 05 March 2010 - 13:05, said:

You don't understand what this means?

I have never ever heard of a batter being "efficient"

[Skeletar Spider]

bluetooner, on 05 March 2010 - 13:09, said:

I have never ever heard of a batter being "efficient"

Ahh, so you don't understand what it means then. A baseball player is only any good if he can hit a ball a long way!

[Savage Henry]

A tip for all those yet to draft. All of us, in other words. Brandon Webb is "likely to start the year on the DL". Given he missed the entire season () last year, I wonder if anyone will draft him this year?

[bluetooner]

Jim Pansy, on 05 March 2010 - 19:32, said:

A tip for all those yet to draft. All of us, in other words. Brandon Webb is "likely to start the year on the DL". Given he missed the entire season () last year, I wonder if anyone will draft him this year?

He will be an interesting one. With players coming back from a long injury layoff, they are often low down in the Yahoo Rankings, so aren't autodrafted - and people tend to forget about them when they are drafting. I managed to get Chris Carpenter last year in my last 3-4 picks for both leagues i was in - and you could argue he went on to what should have been a Cy Young year.

I haven't heard anything about Webb thus far to know if he is going to miss significant time, or just a few weeks. With DL spots available, im sure someone will pick him up though (i.e. me)

So mr JP - what will you give me to NOT draft Lincecum?

[Savage Henry]

bluetooner, on 05 March 2010 - 23:25, said:

He will be an interesting one. With players coming back from a long injury layoff, they are often low down in the Yahoo Rankings, so aren't autodrafted - and people tend to forget about them when they are drafting. I managed to get Chris Carpenter last year in my last 3-4 picks for both leagues i was in - and you could argue he went on to what should have been a Cy Young year.

I haven't heard anything about Webb thus far to know if he is going to miss significant time, or just a few weeks. With DL spots available, im sure someone will pick him up though (i.e. me)

So mr JP - what will you give me to NOT draft Lincecum?

It's a fair risk, but I'm not going to pick him early.

As for Lincecum, how about I pick a shortstop who will miss the entire year, and a pitcher who does likewise, and you give me Lincecum plus a 20 home run player of your choice? Sound reasonable?