[Yogie_dee]

The Arch, on 08 February 2010 - 21:46, said:

David Cowan would get a game for any team in the first division.

He is an outstanding centre half, probably one of the best in the division.

[Ludo *1]

If we get to the SPL then we shall be signing SPL quality defenders (At least that is the plan.). We attempted to sign several SPL quality players in January but to no avail as we are not an SPL club yet.

If we stay in the First Division then Benny, Lauchlan, McKeown and Cowan are good options for us, although I think one addition wouldn't go a miss.

[Nizzy]

The Master, on 08 February 2010 - 21:46, said:

He has invested an amount.

How much?

[The Master]

Nizzy, on 08 February 2010 - 21:52, said:

How much?

I don't know.

[MDCCCXCIII]

Soccer Dark Blue, on 08 February 2010 - 20:22, said:

I admit Pavels is a good player but we have better defenders than him at Dens and we don't need him thank you very much.

Not so sure about that myself.

P45, on 08 February 2010 - 20:27, said:

Sounds like Melville has stopped handing out the money if Dundee Utd can sign players that Dundee wanted.

Yes, yes very good- Melville's losing interest. He'd have been dragging us to another administration had we agreed to start paying off greedy agents I'm sure.

[Nizzy]

Ludo *1, on 08 February 2010 - 21:51, said:

If we stay in the First Division then Benny, Lauchlan, McKeown and Cowan are good options for us, although I think one addition wouldn't go a miss.

Benedictus isn't ready for regular football at this level, Lauchlan will be another year older, Cowan's had a purple patch, but you're yet to see if he can keep it up and McKeown's yet to prove he can stay fit for any length of time. Your defence will require an overhaul this summer. Promotion, or no promotion.

[The Arch]

Classy JL, on 08 February 2010 - 21:49, said:

Certainly Partick Thistle...

No thanks. We've got Greg Shields.

[Nizzy]

The Master, on 08 February 2010 - 21:53, said:

I don't know.

And yet you can confidently talk about other aspects of Dundee's finances. Sorry, I thought you'd had a good look at the accounts the way you were going on.

[The Master]

Nizzy, on 08 February 2010 - 21:55, said:

And yet you can confidently talk about other aspects of Dundee's finances. Sorry, I thought you'd had a good look at the accounts the way you were going on.

I don't need to see the accounts to know that:

1) We received £250,000 from Burnley
2) A crowd of 20,000 at Celtic park = ~£100,000 in revenue
3) A similar net crowd for games at Dens against Aberdeen and Rangers = ~£100,000 in revenue

This post has been edited by The Master: 08 February 2010 - 21:57

[Muggy]

The Arch, on 08 February 2010 - 21:55, said:

No thanks. We've got Greg Shields.

Right enough. I feel sorry for him. He's being destroyed playing next to those cloggers at Firhill. Such a shame.

[MDCCCXCIII]

Nizzy, on 08 February 2010 - 21:54, said:

Benedictus isn't ready for regular football at this level, Lauchlan will be another year older, Cowan's had a purple patch, but you're yet to see if he can keep it up and McKeown's yet to prove he can stay fit for any length of time. Your defence will require an overhaul this summer. Promotion, or no promotion.

Cowan was playing extremely well before his injury IMO.

[The Arch]

Classy JL, on 08 February 2010 - 21:57, said:

Right enough. I feel sorry for him. He's being destroyed playing next to those cloggers at Firhill. Such a shame.

Cloggers? Right enough. Have you seen Martyn Corrigan play before? He's not called "Der Kaiser" for nothing.

[Nizzy]

The Master, on 08 February 2010 - 21:57, said:

I don't need to see the accounts to know that:

1) We received £250,000 from Burnley
2) A crowd of 20,000 at Celtic park = ~£100,000 in revenue
3) A similar net crowd for games at Dens against Aberdeen and Rangers = ~£100,000 in revenue

Different years, different accounts. And surely you'd need to have seen the account to speak so confidently about incomings, outgoings, investments and how they've played against each other.

From reports at the time of Griffiths signing:

"Millionaire director Calum Melville, who stumped up for the deal, is delighted to get the player signed."

I'm pretty sure I read something recently where Melville stated it was him who financed the deals. I'll need to have a rake around.

[Nizzy]

MDCCCXCIII, on 08 February 2010 - 21:59, said:

Cowan was playing extremely well before his injury IMO.

Like I said, a purple patch.

[The Master]

You do that.

And remember to get exact quotes; not just supposition from hacks

[Nizzy]

More:

"The Dark Blues may be happy to boast an eye-catching side and impressive performers such as Gary Harkins and Leigh Griffiths, despite a notable blip on Saturday when they lost away to Queen of the South, but it may be argued that their best acquisition this season has been Melville, a 40-year-old multimillionaire whose financial input — the amount of which he will not divulge — facilitated the signing of those players."

Anyway, I suppose I'll have to just go on your supposition, won't I?

[Ludo *1]

Nizzy, on 08 February 2010 - 21:54, said:

Benedictus isn't ready for regular football at this level, Lauchlan will be another year older, Cowan's had a purple patch, but you're yet to see if he can keep it up and McKeown's yet to prove he can stay fit for any length of time. Your defence will require an overhaul this summer. Promotion, or no promotion.

Just because Lauchlan has aged by one year doesn't mean he won't be able to cut it. He has only just turned 33 so it is not as if his time is up quite yet. I agree with you regarding Benedictus and if he had been out on loan this season then he may have came back ready to challenge the first team, injuries have prevented that but he is still more than decent back-up. Every time I have seen Cowan at centre half he has been excellent, it is not just this season that he has been deployed there. As for McKeown, I can't say if he will fully recover from this injury or not but if he does then we will have 3 very decent centre halfs for the First Divisionn with one being an excellent prospect if he bulks up slightly.

We won't need an overhaul if we don't go up but we will need to add another centre half as McKeown and Cowan aren't the most reliable when it comes to injuries.

[Radford]

Nizzy, on 08 February 2010 - 21:44, said:

So Clum's put minimal amounts of money into Dundee then?

It looks like Vital Dees has a rival!

[P45]

The Master, on 08 February 2010 - 22:01, said:

You do that.

And remember to get exact quotes; not just supposition from hacks

That's no way to talk about yourself!

[vikingTON]

I thought I was going to read about Dundee spunking more money on players in their desperate bid to avoid the death spiral. They're no good at that either. What a bunch of useless diddies.

[MDCCCXCIII]

Ludo *1, on 08 February 2010 - 22:03, said:

Every time I have seen Cowan at centre half he has been excellent, it is not just this season that he has been deployed there.

An extremely long purple patch apparently.

[Dark Blue]

We made the right choice when we told Mihadjuks agent where to go. lolz at united for stumping up the £20K in the financial situation there in.

[Desert Nomad]

Ludo *1, on 08 February 2010 - 22:03, said:

Just because Lauchlan has aged by one year doesn't mean he won't be able to cut it. He has only just turned 33 so it is not as if his time is up quite yet. I agree with you regarding Benedictus and if he had been out on loan this season then he may have came back ready to challenge the first team, injuries have prevented that but he is still more than decent back-up. Every time I have seen Cowan at centre half he has been excellent, it is not just this season that he has been deployed there. As for McKeown, I can't say if he will fully recover from this injury or not but if he does then we will have 3 very decent centre halfs for the First Divisionn with one being an excellent prospect if he bulks up slightly.

We won't need an overhaul if we don't go up but we will need to add another centre half as McKeown and Cowan aren't the most reliable when it comes to injuries.

I suppose it would depend on what Melville would see as success next season, if promotion is attained this. Would he settle for just staying up? Or would he be looking for top 6 status straight away? If it`s the latter, then you`re gonna need a better quality of defender than Jim Lauchlan IMO.

[Dark Blue]

Desert Nomad, on 08 February 2010 - 22:21, said:

I suppose it would depend on what Melville would see as success next season, if promotion is attained this. Would he settle for just staying up? Or would he be looking for top 6 status straight away? If it`s the latter, then you`re gonna need a better quality of defender than Jim Lauchlan IMO.

Melvilles aim is for us reach the SPL this season then establish ourselfs as an SPL side before making the step up to becoming a top 6 side. I expect an overhaul in our defence come the start of the season if were going to be playing in the SPL next season.

[Ludo *1]

Desert Nomad, on 08 February 2010 - 22:21, said:

I suppose it would depend on what Melville would see as success next season, if promotion is attained this. Would he settle for just staying up? Or would he be looking for top 6 status straight away? If it`s the latter, then you`re gonna need a better quality of defender than Jim Lauchlan IMO.

I agree, obviously. However, I'd expect the aim would be to avoid relegation and take things as they come, if we were to go on a run and get near a top 6 finish then that would obviously be the aim.

However, I believe that if we should go up, first season we should just be looking to settle ourselves into the SPL. Nothing too drastic, although others may disagree.