[BigMarcAntoine]

After getting promotion last season and reaching the final of the sanderson cup they have been awful this year. I watched them against Ancrum and was shocked to see how poor they are and to see tht a 50 something Jimmy Dunbar was still playin! They had 3 decent players in Davie Patterson, Lee Brown and Lewis Bryson, altho brown and brysons attitude during the game was a disgrace they look the only decent attacking players. The hotspur are sitting 2nd bottom of the b league and look a cert to go back down which is a shame considerin how good they looked last year!

[Red top]

BigMarcAntoine, on 25 January 2010 - 14:09, said:

After getting promotion last season and reaching the final of the sanderson cup they have been awful this year. I watched them against Ancrum and was shocked to see how poor they are and to see tht a 50 something Jimmy Dunbar was still playin! They had 3 decent players in Davie Patterson, Lee Brown and Lewis Bryson, altho brown and brysons attitude during the game was a disgrace they look the only decent attacking players. The hotspur are sitting 2nd bottom of the b league and look a cert to go back down which is a shame considerin how good they looked last year!

Gala lost the core of there team last season sid gass to earlston, the hardie brothers to the dean, young mcgurn to kelso, nighty went to america,jonny craword to gala utd and the gk bell to boswells altough they did keep the big lad watson i think jimmy is struggling to attract players

[BigMarcAntoine]

Red top, on 26 January 2010 - 17:08, said:

Gala lost the core of there team last season sid gass to earlston, the hardie brothers to the dean, young mcgurn to kelso, nighty went to america,jonny craword to gala utd and the gk bell to boswells altough they did keep the big lad watson i think jimmy is struggling to attract players

Yeh they seem to be missing nightys goals badly. The team looks full of young players aswell who dont look strong enuf for the league.

[fergi3]

BigMarcAntoine, on 25 January 2010 - 14:09, said:

After getting promotion last season and reaching the final of the sanderson cup they have been awful this year. I watched them against Ancrum and was shocked to see how poor they are and to see tht a 50 something Jimmy Dunbar was still playin! They had 3 decent players in Davie Patterson, Lee Brown and Lewis Bryson, altho brown and brysons attitude during the game was a disgrace they look the only decent attacking players. The hotspur are sitting 2nd bottom of the b league and look a cert to go back down which is a shame considerin how good they looked last year!

The hotspur are competing with gala utd to sign players and it looks like utd are more attractive to the players who are not playing with the rovers, utd have a good young manager who has built his team from scratch credit to him, I'm sure this happened when gala mcqueen 1st formed aswell so i'm sure the spurs will recover from this slump

[Trotter]

fergi3, on 27 January 2010 - 13:25, said:

The hotspur are competing with gala utd to sign players and it looks like utd are more attractive to the players who are not playing with the rovers, utd have a good young manager who has built his team from scratch credit to him, I'm sure this happened when gala mcqueen 1st formed aswell so i'm sure the spurs will recover from this slump

The situations surely gona get worse with this other Gala team being formed (fc Gala is it??) at the end of the season?

[UptheA7]

Trotter, on 27 January 2010 - 16:08, said:

The situations surely gona get worse with this other Gala team being formed (fc Gala is it??) at the end of the season?

They can form but then have to be voted into the league - long way to go.

[BigMarcAntoine]

UptheA7, on 27 January 2010 - 16:43, said:

They can form but then have to be voted into the league - long way to go.

They have already been voted in and look a far bettr team than hotspur. Think they are favourites to win the c league.

[UptheA7]

BigMarcAntoine, on 27 January 2010 - 16:50, said:

They have already been voted in and look a far bettr team than hotspur. Think they are favourites to win the c league.

You are thinking of Gala United The last post was about FC Gala, a potential new club who if successful in their application will stretch Gala players even further. FC Gala have a website the link is on the Border Am website. Look before you leap Big Marc

[winaukee]

BigMarcAntoine, on 25 January 2010 - 14:09, said:

After getting promotion last season and reaching the final of the sanderson cup they have been awful this year. I watched them against Ancrum and was shocked to see how poor they are and to see tht a 50 something Jimmy Dunbar was still playin! They had 3 decent players in Davie Patterson, Lee Brown and Lewis Bryson, altho brown and brysons attitude during the game was a disgrace they look the only decent attacking players. The hotspur are sitting 2nd bottom of the b league and look a cert to go back down which is a shame considerin how good they looked last year!

BigMarcAntonie, we are struggling this year and it is mainly down to goals and a lack of forwards or fit forwards in the squad. Lets face it any time Jimmy has to play me up front means we are in real trouble. The lose of Knighty and wee Niall has us struggling but I honestly think we can do ok in the second half of the season and hopefully this will start on Saturday in a must win game.
I feel sorry for Jimmy since that is now twice he has gotten the Hotspurs promoted from div C in the last 4 years and both times he has lost the core of the team. Don't be fooled by Jimmy anyway since he might be a grandad thses days but he's still a good man to have in the heart of the team plus Davie A pace gets him out of trouble. I didn't play versus Ancrum so I've no idea how bad or good we were in that game.

Gala Utd are a threat to us since they do take some of our players but overall we still attract enough to get a team out each week plus if rumours are true in then not even the Dean or Selkirkcan complete with Gala Utd since Des and Jay are meant to be heading there soon as well.

Out of the other players mentioned by Red Top only Johnny and Bell were regulars.

[Eye Valley]

UptheA7, on 27 January 2010 - 17:17, said:

You are thinking of Gala United The last post was about FC Gala, a potential new club who if successful in their application will stretch Gala players even further. FC Gala have a website the link is on the Border Am website. Look before you leap Big Marc

According to the Club Info tab, they already have 6 of a squad and 3 staff members. In an ideal world, 3 leagues of 12 would be great but we are most certainly stretching the resources of the BA, ala refs and players.
Already had 2 enquiries through the website of how to apply.

[BigMarcAntoine]

winaukee, on 27 January 2010 - 19:04, said:

BigMarcAntonie, we are struggling this year and it is mainly down to goals and a lack of forwards or fit forwards in the squad. Lets face it any time Jimmy has to play me up front means we are in real trouble. The lose of Knighty and wee Niall has us struggling but I honestly think we can do ok in the second half of the season and hopefully this will start on Saturday in a must win game.
I feel sorry for Jimmy since that is now twice he has gotten the Hotspurs promoted from div C in the last 4 years and both times he has lost the core of the team. Don't be fooled by Jimmy anyway since he might be a grandad thses days but he's still a good man to have in the heart of the team plus Davie A pace gets him out of trouble. I didn't play versus Ancrum so I've no idea how bad or good we were in that game.

Gala Utd are a threat to us since they do take some of our players but overall we still attract enough to get a team out each week plus if rumours are true in then not even the Dean or Selkirkcan complete with Gala Utd since Des and Jay are meant to be heading there soon as well.

Out of the other players mentioned by Red Top only Johnny and Bell were regulars.

I wasnt slagging jimmy i was just shocked to see tht he is stil startin which shows the team must be very short of options. From wht i saw in the ancrum game i didnt see anything to support ur statement of doing well in the 2nd half of season. The team looks quite young and a lot of players lack the strength which is needed in those leagues. A lot of players attitude seemed to be poor, moaning at ref and starting brawls with opposition players.

[Red top]

winaukee, on 27 January 2010 - 19:04, said:

BigMarcAntonie, we are struggling this year and it is mainly down to goals and a lack of forwards or fit forwards in the squad. Lets face it any time Jimmy has to play me up front means we are in real trouble. The lose of Knighty and wee Niall has us struggling but I honestly think we can do ok in the second half of the season and hopefully this will start on Saturday in a must win game.
I feel sorry for Jimmy since that is now twice he has gotten the Hotspurs promoted from div C in the last 4 years and both times he has lost the core of the team. Don't be fooled by Jimmy anyway since he might be a grandad thses days but he's still a good man to have in the heart of the team plus Davie A pace gets him out of trouble. I didn't play versus Ancrum so I've no idea how bad or good we were in that game.

Gala Utd are a threat to us since they do take some of our players but overall we still attract enough to get a team out each week plus if rumours are true in then not even the Dean or Selkirkcan complete with Gala Utd since Des and Jay are meant to be heading there soon as well.

Out of the other players mentioned by Red Top only Johnny and Bell were regulars.

Sid gass, Andy hardie and liam hardie not regulars maybe thats why they left all 3 could walk into any div B side

[winaukee]

Red top, on 28 January 2010 - 09:18, said:

Sid gass, Andy hardie and liam hardie not regulars maybe thats why they left all 3 could walk into any div B side

Sid wasn't well the majority of the time and Andy and Liam were at the club then weren't at the club and then weren't turning up so Jimmy to his credit stuck with the team that was winning the majority of the games they played. Both are quality players but there are reasons they end up playing for so many teams in a season.

[UptheA7]

winaukee, on 28 January 2010 - 14:00, said:

Sid wasn't well the majority of the time and Andy and Liam were at the club then weren't at the club and then weren't turning up so Jimmy to his credit stuck with the team that was winning the majority of the games they played. Both are quality players but there are reasons they end up playing for so many teams in a season.

Unfortunately there seems to be quite a few players certainly in the Gala area that think they should play every week regardless of form or commitment. Teams have a squad and training for a reason. The players who play with 3 or 4 teams a season should realise that it is not the managers who are wrong.

[Red top]

UptheA7, on 28 January 2010 - 14:24, said:

Unfortunately there seems to be quite a few players certainly in the Gala area that think they should play every week regardless of form or commitment. Teams have a squad and training for a reason. The players who play with 3 or 4 teams a season should realise that it is not the managers who are wrong.

Don't think it was a training problem with these boys though

[fergi3]

Red top, on 26 January 2010 - 17:08, said:

Gala lost the core of there team last season sid gass to earlston, the hardie brothers to the dean, young mcgurn to kelso, nighty went to america,jonny craword to gala utd and the gk bell to boswells altough they did keep the big lad watson i think jimmy is struggling to attract players

I think the way forward for the hotspur is if they become gala's u19's side with a couple of overaged players to add abit exp. This would keep the u17's together it also gives them somewhere to play once they leave the youth set up it also continues the player pathway to the big team and it would also give gala a good team to enter in the scottish cup at u19 level

[winaukee]

fergi3, on 28 January 2010 - 15:35, said:

I think the way forward for the hotspur is if they become gala's u19's side with a couple of overaged players to add abit exp. This would keep the u17's together it also gives them somewhere to play once they leave the youth set up it also continues the player pathway to the big team and it would also give gala a good team to enter in the scottish cup at u19 level

The Hotspur at times can be an under 19's team with a few over aged players and I agree this isn't a bad idea but since the Fairydean are going to run an under 19s team in the Edinburgh league this won't happen. The big problem with the Gala teams, Fairydean, Rovers and Hotspurs is still the lack of player movement between them. Players seem happy to never get a game but be able to say I play for the Rovers or the Fairydean whereas for younger players to develop they need to play week in week out and if they lose a few games so what.

[UptheA7]

winaukee, on 28 January 2010 - 17:39, said:

The Hotspur at times can be an under 19's team with a few over aged players and I agree this isn't a bad idea but since the Fairydean are going to run an under 19s team in the Edinburgh league this won't happen. The big problem with the Gala teams, Fairydean, Rovers and Hotspurs is still the lack of player movement between them. Players seem happy to never get a game but be able to say I play for the Rovers or the Fairydean whereas for younger players to develop they need to play week in week out and if they lose a few games so what.

Where does the money and players for this come from? The players will not be able to play amateur therefore taking more amateur players away and as the previous posts have said there is not a lot to go round. Didn't the Fairydean run an under 19's team in the Borders that was hooked because players simply could not be bothered and if they did turn up they were still suffering from their Saturday night/Sunday morning?

[winaukee]

UptheA7, on 28 January 2010 - 19:12, said:

Where does the money and players for this come from? The players will not be able to play amateur therefore taking more amateur players away and as the previous posts have said there is not a lot to go round. Didn't the Fairydean run an under 19's team in the Borders that was hooked because players simply could not be bothered and if they did turn up they were still suffering from their Saturday night/Sunday morning?

We were wondering the same thing and again it seems like poorly thought out.

[Big Boab]

[quote name='Red top' date='28 January 2010 - 09:18' timestamp='1264670325'
Sid gass, Andy hardie and liam hardie not regulars maybe thats why they left all 3 could walk into any div B side
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Would Have to agree with you Red Top, the two Hardie brothers dont seem too have any problems getting a game for the So called No 1 team in Galashiels. So dont know why they didnt get a game with the Worst Side in Gala!!

[Big Boab]

UptheA7, on 28 January 2010 - 14:24, said:

Unfortunately there seems to be quite a few players certainly in the Gala area that think they should play every week regardless of form or commitment. Teams have a squad and training for a reason. The players who play with 3 or 4 teams a season should realise that it is not the managers who are wrong.

Who just might these few players be in the Gala area?

[UptheA7]

Big Boab, on 29 January 2010 - 22:19, said:

Who just might these few players be in the Gala area?

Obviously I am not going to name names but there are players who train when they want, are unreliable on a Saturday and do absolutely nothing for their club in respect of fundraising or helping out. They think it is enough just to turn up (if they do) I think that every manager in the Gala and surrounding area will know who these players are. Unfortunately beggars can't be choosers and there are time where they have to bite the bullet and play these players. I am a fan of playing players who train and want to be part of a club they deserve a place in the squad but unfortunately that is not always possible.

[Red top]

winaukee, on 27 January 2010 - 19:04, said:

BigMarcAntonie, we are struggling this year and it is mainly down to goals and a lack of forwards or fit forwards in the squad. Lets face it any time Jimmy has to play me up front means we are in real trouble. The lose of Knighty and wee Niall has us struggling but I honestly think we can do ok in the second half of the season and hopefully this will start on Saturday in a must win game.
I feel sorry for Jimmy since that is now twice he has gotten the Hotspurs promoted from div C in the last 4 years and both times he has lost the core of the team. Don't be fooled by Jimmy anyway since he might be a grandad thses days but he's still a good man to have in the heart of the team plus Davie A pace gets him out of trouble. I didn't play versus Ancrum so I've no idea how bad or good we were in that game.

Gala Utd are a threat to us since they do take some of our players but overall we still attract enough to get a team out each week plus if rumours are true in then not even the Dean or Selkirkcan complete with Gala Utd since Des and Jay are meant to be heading there soon as well.

Out of the other players mentioned by Red Top only Johnny and Bell were regulars.

Heard at weekend that craig lowry could be taking over the hotspur job next season!! Lowry will know the local boys and could draft in some quality players, although it looks like the spurs might be playing "c" div football next year that might put players off!! surely it would make sense for lowry to go there now and try and keep them up!!

[UptheA7]

Red top, on 01 February 2010 - 11:52, said:

Heard at weekend that craig lowry could be taking over the hotspur job next season!! Lowry will know the local boys and could draft in some quality players, although it looks like the spurs might be playing "c" div football next year that might put players off!! surely it would make sense for lowry to go there now and try and keep them up!!

I know Craig is looking to get more involved in the coaching but I believe it is more with the younger groups. He certainly knows a few players and has collected a few club strips and training gear in his time.

[fergi3]

Red top, on 01 February 2010 - 11:52, said:

Heard at weekend that craig lowry could be taking over the hotspur job next season!! Lowry will know the local boys and could draft in some quality players, although it looks like the spurs might be playing "c" div football next year that might put players off!! surely it would make sense for lowry to go there now and try and keep them up!!

Craig is playing with leithen at the moment so i don't think he would be leaving them just now, also lowrie has said he may be taken a year out next year so he can take his son to the hibs games

This post has been edited by fergi3: 01 February 2010 - 13:13