[badger_whacker]

BBC news

Apparently several Human Rights groups have carried out research into several video games and have discovered that players can commit war crimes in them. They have urged the makers of such games to remind players that their actions "have real world limits".

Just a few other snippets of this magic survey:

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The games were analysed to see "whether certain scenes and acts committed by players would constitute violations of international law if they were real, rather than virtual".

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The group chose games, rather than films, because of their interactivity.

"Thus," said the report, "the line between the virtual and real experience becomes blurred and the game becomes a simulation of real life situations on the battlefield."

And they worry about the mental state of folk who play the games.

[capybara]

I cannot understand all this so called fury,there has been far worse in the movies for years,and games are now get aged ranked.

If you want blame anybody it is the parents who give in to little Johnny and buy him Grand Theft,i have seen it.

To many MP,s with to much time on there hands trying to get the Daily Mail vote,Keith Vass is the worse.

[Neiljb]

I'm developing a new game called Auschwitz Sims in which you play the part of a camp guard and work your way up to commandant.

This post has been edited by Neiljb: 23 November 2009 - 16:05

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Neiljb, on Nov 23 2009, 16:04, said:

I'm developing a new game called Auschwitz Sims in which you play the part of a camp guard and work your way up to commandant.

My grandfather died at Auschwitz..............






Fell out of his gun tower. I thank you.





Ill get me coat.........

[The Master]

badger_whacker, on Nov 23 2009, 15:54, said:

BBC news

Apparently several Human Rights groups have carried out research into several video games and have discovered that players can commit war crimes in them. They have urged the makers of such games to remind players that their actions "have real world limits".

Just a few other snippets of this magic survey:





And they worry about the mental state of folk who play the games.

I've seen some mad studies in my time, but this one is off the scale.

OMFG that stream of 1s and 0s is being abused. Get teh polices!!!!

[badger_whacker]

Neiljb, on Nov 23 2009, 16:04, said:

I'm developing a new game called Auschwitz Sims in which you play the part of a camp guard and work your way up to commandant.

I'd actually buy that.

[Dave]

I must admit, ever since I played the Airport mission in Modern Warfare 2 I have been searching for an arms dealer in order to arm myself to the teeth and head into EK town centre to replicate it.

Aside from the fact doing that in EK would probably do society a favour in eliminating the next generation of convicts, these human rights groups need to get a grip. They are games. People who play them know they are games. Every sane person in the world knows that you cannot do what you do in games like Call of Duty in real life.

And I just seen that the article says CoD 5 was reviewed. They really think that people who play that want to go back 60 years to WWII and fight in the trenches?

[caleycasual]

I have recently taken it upon myself to befriend and then start working for my local gay nightclub owner. Due to this privileged position I was then dancing with this stunning bird in one of his clubs who then refused to f**k me in the toilets. I am suing Rockstar for $50m as I thought that if I could do it in GTA then I could do it in real life too.

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[rw89]

Yes, I was shocked at the scenes of violence in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2...I must have mistaken it for Modern Negotiation...

[Pink Freud]

capybara, on Nov 23 2009, 16:01, said:

If you want blame anybody it is the parents who give in to little Johnny and buy him Grand Theft,i have seen it.

That'll be me then!
Frankly, any child who takes that shit seriously is too far gone to save anyway. So far my son has steadfastly refused to torture cats or other children. I'm disappointed.

[Marsh]

Dave, on Nov 23 2009, 16:24, said:

I must admit, ever since I played the Airport mission in Modern Warfare 2 I have been searching for an arms dealer in order to arm myself to the teeth and head into EK town centre to replicate it.

Aside from the fact doing that in EK would probably do society a favour in eliminating the next generation of convicts, these human rights groups need to get a grip. They are games. People who play them know they are games. Every sane person in the world knows that you cannot do what you do in games like Call of Duty in real life.

And I just seen that the article says CoD 5 was reviewed. They really think that people who play that want to go back 60 years to WWII and fight in the trenches?

I want in on this. I'll meet you outside Huddies, grab a quick Victors cos we'll need some energy. Start off at Downtown, then work our way through the scaffy end of the centre, through Princes Mall, the Plaza, then into Centre West via Fuzion/Crystals/Smokey Joes.

[Drunken Hobo]

I've recently been arrested for removing a guy's small intestine with a pair of tweezers. It was that horrificly realistic Operation game that told me to do it. I'm planning to sue too.

[Ad Lib]

Neiljb, on Nov 23 2009, 16:04, said:

I'm developing a new game called Auschwitz Sims in which you play the part of a camp guard and work your way up to commandant.

I don't know if such a game exists, but I'd love there to be a game for both World Wars where you start out as a private in the trenches/D-Day and fight your way up the ranks, having to determine strategy when you are promoted to sergeant and ultimately to officer rank etc. It would be awesome if you could choose which forces to join at the outset too (e.g. participating in different battles like the Battle of Britain or the sinking of the Bismarck).

[Cynical Saintee]

I don't worry about these havering nutcases. If they knew how much the games industry was worth and how many jobs rely on it in their constituencies they'd soon shut the f**k up.

[FilthyMack]

To be fair I'd have a pretty dim view of war game stoo if I'd just been forced to play through Hour of Victory.

Neiljb, on Nov 23 2009, 16:04, said:

I'm developing a new game called Auschwitz Sims in which you play the part of a camp guard and work your way up to commandant.

Cynical Saintee, on Nov 23 2009, 18:48, said:

I don't worry about these havering nutcases. If they knew how much the games industry was worth and how many jobs rely on it in their constituencies they'd soon shut the f**k up.

A Labour MP Tom Watson actually shot down (metaphorically speaking, he hadn't been playing games and gone mental, unfortunately) Keith Vaz over the uninformed nonsense he was spouting in pariliament the other week. Tom Watson is former minister for "digital engagement" and has formed a Facebook group called Gamer's Voice to counter this sort of nonsense.

This post has been edited by FilthyMack: 23 November 2009 - 19:02

[DornochCaley]

I will listen to their complaints about War Crimes in Games when the government stop commiting them!

[Pink Freud]

DornochCaley, on Nov 23 2009, 19:16, said:

I will listen to their complaints about War Crimes in Games when the government stop commiting them!

Quite. If these games ARE too realistic, maybe that's what they are scared of. A bunch of vaguely informed teenagers saying"f**k that for a game of soldiers" when told to go to war....

[madwullie]

We only have to put up with this until a new medium is invented, and then it will be demonised for corrupting children...of course conveniently ignoring the fact that violence has been happening since caveman times...damn those violent cave paintings.

First it was books, then it was music, then it was films, now it is computer games. You need a full generation to grow old with the "technology" before you'll completely irradicate the howling of the older generations who don't understand the technology and want to blame society's failings on one specific thing. They will invariably mention that things were never as bad as "this" when they were younger.

Of course, because the older generation have grown up with books, vivid descriptions of brutality, racism, violence, torture, rape, war crimes etc in literature is fine because they understand literature is fiction.

[Neiljb]

madwullie, on Nov 24 2009, 10:37, said:

We only have to put up with this until a new medium is invented, and then it will be demonised for corrupting children...of course conveniently ignoring the fact that violence has been happening since caveman times...damn those violent cave paintings.

First it was books, then it was music, then it was films, now it is computer games. You need a full generation to grow old with the "technology" before you'll completely irradicate the howling of the older generations who don't understand the technology and want to blame society's failings on one specific thing. They will invariably mention that things were never as bad as "this" when they were younger.

Of course, because the older generation have grown up with books, vivid descriptions of brutality, racism, violence, torture, rape, war crimes etc in literature is fine because they understand literature is fiction.

Also, some people say that reading books is healthier than playing computer games or watching TV.

In all cases you are sat on your arse getting no health benefit what so ever. Unless you're watching porn, with the curtains closed and the missis oot daeing the shopping.

[Gaz]

Neiljb, on Nov 24 2009, 13:00, said:

Also, some people say that reading books is healthier than playing computer games or watching TV.

In all cases you are sat on your arse getting no health benefit what so ever. Unless you're watching porn, with the curtains closed and the missis oot daeing the shopping.

Physical health no, mental health yes. Just because something doesn't mean you're exercising physically doesn't mean it's not healthy.

[Mr X]

Gaz, on Nov 24 2009, 23:05, said:

Physical health no, mental health yes. Just because something doesn't mean you're exercising physically doesn't mean it's not healthy.

Are you suggesting that there are no 'mental health' benefits from playing computer games?

[P.C]

Mr X, on Nov 25 2009, 10:57, said:

Are you suggesting that there are no 'mental health' benefits from playing computer games?

i play all the time and look how mental i am

[Gaz]

Mr X, on Nov 25 2009, 10:57, said:

Are you suggesting that there are no 'mental health' benefits from playing computer games?

Er no, quite the opposite - chap above seemed to suggest that just because someone's sitting on their arse it couldn't be healthy, and I pointed out that there are other forms of health than just physical exercise.

[Mr X]

Gaz, on Nov 25 2009, 16:59, said:

Er no, quite the opposite - chap above seemed to suggest that just because someone's sitting on their arse it couldn't be healthy, and I pointed out that there are other forms of health than just physical exercise.

Fair enough. I thought you were referring to just reading books.

My mistake