[Napolean Dynamite]

Cant believe theres not a thread running about this.

Holland look like they are just about to shite on the hosts opening party.

Anyone else watching?

[Cowden til i die]

Yeah. Its been an awesome 1st game. 7 runs from the last over for the Dutch to win!! Its all happening!!

[The Phoenix]

Watched every ball.

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[Napolean Dynamite]

well done the Dutch!!!

[Cowden til i die]

The thought of the Dutch playing cricket is still weird but beating England!! They deserved it as well, they were really good.


Unbe-fucking-lievable!! What a finish

[The Phoenix]

Cowden til i die, on Jun 5 2009, 21:05, said:

The thought of the Dutch playing cricket is still weird

Not as weird as getting a Dutch Cap for playing.

I bet Engerland feel like complete Johnnies.

[Cowden til i die]

The Phoenix, on Jun 5 2009, 21:07, said:

Not as weird as getting a Dutch Cap for playing.

I bet Engerland feel like complete Johnnies.

Ohh, i see what you did there

[Napolean Dynamite]

Scotland up tommorrow against New Zealand. Cant really see a second upset unfortunatly.

[Tom McB]

Napolean Dynamite, on Jun 5 2009, 21:11, said:

Scotland up tommorrow against New Zealand. Cant really see a second upset unfortunatly.

Believe man, just believe.

[Cowden til i die]

Napolean Dynamite, on Jun 5 2009, 21:11, said:

Scotland up tommorrow against New Zealand. Cant really see a second upset unfortunatly.

I cant see it either. NZ have big hitters, that England dont have, that will smash the Scottish attack out the park(well thats the way its supposed to happen on paper...)

[The Phoenix]

Napolean Dynamite, on Jun 5 2009, 21:11, said:

Scotland up tommorrow against New Zealand. Cant really see a second upset unfortunatly.

Never say never.

3 or 4 of the Scots batsmen have a more than decent chance of scoring a few runs and a bit of luck here and there, NZ could easily find themselves under the same enormous pressure as England did tonight.

If you watched the game, you will know exactly what pressure can do.

If the top batters don't come off though, we could get a roasting.

[Fife Saint]

This could be the lowest point of my life. Getting involved in a discussion about 20-20 cricket on a Friday night on PnB.

[The Phoenix]

Fife Saint, on Jun 5 2009, 21:16, said:

This could be the lowest point of my life. Getting involved in a discussion about 20-20 cricket on a Friday night on PnB.

Don't worry, to be officially "involved", you need to contribute something meaningful.

[Napolean Dynamite]

The Phoenix, on Jun 5 2009, 21:14, said:

Never say never.

3 or 4 of the Scots batsmen have a more than decent chance of scoring a few runs and a bit of luck here and there, NZ could easily find themselves under the same enormous pressure as England did tonight.

If you watched the game, you will know exactly what pressure can do.

If the top batters don't come off though, we could get a roasting.

I just cant see New Zealand having the same lackadaisical approach as England did. After Wright and Bopara opening they took their foot of the gas.

[The Phoenix]

Napolean Dynamite, on Jun 5 2009, 21:55, said:

I just cant see New Zealand having the same lackadaisical approach as England did. After Wright and Bopara opening they took their foot of the gas.

Fair comment.

England should have knocked up at least 180 and the Dutch would probably have struggled to score a hundred.

I bet Pieterson is absolutely livid.

Be hilarious if they beat Pakistan but go out on run rate.

[Fife Saint]

The Phoenix, on Jun 5 2009, 21:20, said:

Don't worry, to be officially "involved", you need to contribute something meaningful.

I thought better of it.

[The Phoenix]

Fife Saint, on Jun 5 2009, 22:19, said:

I thought better of it.

Howzat?

[jupe1407]

Highlights @ 1.20am on BBC2 apparently

I shall be skyplussing, then lauging heartily at them.

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[Frank Booth]

Napolean Dynamite, on Jun 5 2009, 21:11, said:

Scotland up tommorrow against New Zealand. Cant really see a second upset unfortunatly.

Majid Haq works in my fave "Indian" restaurant in Paisley, hopefully he can take a few.

[Savage Henry]

England probably should give up on the short form of the game.

[jupe1407]

Jim Pansy, on Jun 5 2009, 22:29, said:

England probably should give up on the short form of the game.

Didn't England invent the T20 concept in 2003? How can they be so shit at it already?

They certainly don't seem to have much of a clue in 50 over matches (The Windies don't count seeing as they are perhaps the laziest, most inept touring side i've ever seen)

[Savage Henry]

jupe1407, on Jun 5 2009, 21:37, said:

Didn't England invent the T20 concept in 2003? How can they be so shit at it already?

They certainly don't seem to have much of a clue in 50 over matches (The Windies don't count seeing as they are perhaps the laziest, most inept touring side i've ever seen)

Fifty over, one-day cricket is dead. I don't entirely hold it against the West Indies for not being up for that wee bonus game payback.

It seems to me T20 is purely about slogging. England should just field the biggest hitting guys they have, instead of trying to be so clever. Stick Collingwood behind the stumps, six specialist batsmen, two all-rounders and three specialist bowlers who can hit a bit. No tricks, no subtlety, just bludgeon your way to victory.

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[jupe1407]

Jim Pansy, on Jun 5 2009, 22:43, said:

Fifty over, one-day cricket is dead. I don't entirely hold it against the West Indies for not being up for that wee bonus game payback.

It seems to me T20 is purely about slogging. England should just field the biggest hitting guys they have, instead of trying to be so clever. Stick Collingwood behind the stumps, six specialist batsmen, two all-rounders and three specialist bowlers who can hit a bit. No tricks, no subtlety, just bludgeon your way to victory.

I'd like to see them adopt this approach, but you know, and i know, it won't ever happen. England are far too formulaic in one day cricket, hence they generally have their arses handed back to them. Whereas other countries, esp the Aussies and Saffers are pretty innovative.

[Napolean Dynamite]

jupe1407, on Jun 5 2009, 22:37, said:

Didn't England invent the T20 concept in 2003? How can they be so shit at it already?

They certainly don't seem to have much of a clue in 50 over matches (The Windies don't count seeing as they are perhaps the laziest, most inept touring side i've ever seen)

I think it comes down to team selection and work ethic. Tonight they genuinly thought they only had to turn up and before the stepped it up a gear Holland had the req rr down to a managable 6 per over.

[The Phoenix]

Jim Pansy, on Jun 5 2009, 22:43, said:

Fifty over, one-day cricket is dead. I don't entirely hold it against the West Indies for not being up for that wee bonus game payback.

It seems to me T20 is purely about slogging. England should just field the biggest hitting guys they have, instead of trying to be so clever. Stick Collingwood behind the stumps, six specialist batsmen, two all-rounders and three specialist bowlers who can hit a bit. No tricks, no subtlety, just bludgeon your way to victory.

Excellent post.

I agree entirely although I think Prior should have been behind the stumps.